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    This Date In Reds History (6/6/09): Past Lineups

    55 years ago (1954), the Reds split a doubleheader at Crosley Field vs. the Giants--losing the opener 3-2, and winning the nightcap 3-2.

    First Game
    New York Giants
    Whitey Lockman 1b
    Alvin Dark ss
    Hank Thompson 3b
    Monte Irvin lf
    Don Mueller rf
    Willie Mays cf
    Ray Katt c
    Davey Williams 2b
    Jim Hearn p

    Cincinnati
    Roy McMillan ss
    Ed Harmon 3b
    Gus Bell cf
    Ted Kluszewski 1b
    Bob Borkowski lf
    Johnny Temple 2b
    Wally Post rf
    Ed Bailey c
    Art Fowler p


    WP: Marv Grissom (4-1)
    LP: Frank Smith (1-1)
    HR: NY - Monte Irvin (10).



    Second Game
    New York Giants
    Whitey Lockman 1b
    Alvin Dark ss
    Hank Thompson 3b
    Monte Irvin lf
    Don Mueller rf
    Willie Mays cf
    Wes Westrum c
    Davey Williams 2b
    Don Liddle p

    Cincinnati
    Roy McMillan ss
    Chuck Harmon 3b
    Gus Bell cf
    Ted Kluszewski 1b
    Bob Borkowski lf
    Johnny Temple 2b
    Wally Post rf
    Andy Seminick c
    Fred Baczewski p


    WP: Fred Baczewski (3-3)
    LP: Don Liddle (0-2)
    HR: None.

    In Game 2, Fred Baczewski pitched a complete-game nine-hitter with 7 K's to get the win for the Reds. Don Liddle and Larry Jansen combined on a five-hitter in a losing effort for the Giants. Bob Borkowski's RBI single with one out in the bottom of the ninth inning scored Chuck Harmon with the winning run.
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    Re: This Date In Reds History (6/6/09): Past Lineups

    50 years ago (1959), a 13-3 loss at Crosley Field vs. the Giants.

    San Francisco
    Jim Davenport 3b
    Willie Kirkland rf
    Willie Mays cf
    Orlando Cepeda 1b
    Leon Wagner lf
    Daryl Spencer 2b
    Andre Rodgers ss
    Hobie Landrith c
    Sam Jones p

    Cincinnati
    Johnny Temple 2b
    Vada Pinson cf
    Jerry Lynch lf
    Frank Robinson 1b
    Gus Bell rf
    Ed Bailey c
    Frank J. Thomas 3b
    Roy McMillan ss
    Bob Purkey p


    WP: Sam Jones (6-5)
    LP: Bob Purkey (5-7)
    HR: SF - Leon Wagner (5).

    Sam Jones pitched a complete-game eight-hitter with 7 K's to get the win for the Giants.
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    Re: This Date In Reds History (6/6/09): Past Lineups

    45 years ago (1964), a 3-0 win at Crosley Field vs. the Cardinals.

    St. Louis
    Curt Flood cf
    Dick Groat ss
    Bill White 1b
    Ken Boyer 3b
    Charlie James lf
    Tim McCarver c
    Johnny Lewis rf
    Jerry Buchek 2b
    Ray Washburn p

    Cincinnati
    Pete Rose 2b
    Tommy Harper lf
    Vada Pinson cf
    Gordy Coleman 1b
    Frank Robinson rf
    Leo Cardenas ss
    Johnny Edwards c
    Bobby Klaus 3b
    John Tsitouris p


    WP: John Tsitouris (2-3)
    LP: Ray Washburn (2-3)
    Sv: Sammy Ellis (1)
    HR: None.

    John Tsitouris and Sammy Ellis combined on a six-hit shutout with 9 K's for the Reds. Ellis struck out five in two innings to record the save. Ray Washburn and Ron Taylor combined on a four-hitter in a losing effort for the Cardinals. The only hits for the Reds were a one-out single by Tommy Harper in the first inning, a one-out RBI double by Gordy Coleman in the first, a one-out single by Johnny Edwards in the fourth, and a leadoff single by John Tsitouris in the fifth.
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    Re: This Date In Reds History (6/6/09): Past Lineups

    40 years ago (1969), a 14-8 loss at Wrigley Field in Chicago.

    Cincinnati
    Pete Rose cf
    Bobby Tolan rf
    Alex Johnson lf
    Tony Perez 3b
    Lee May 1b
    Johnny Bench c
    Tommy Helms 2b
    Darrel Chaney ss
    Tony Cloninger p

    Chicago Cubs
    Don Kessinger ss
    Glenn Beckert 2b
    Billy Williams rf
    Ron Santo 3b
    Ernie Banks 1b
    Willie Smith lf
    Randy Hundley c
    Don Young cf
    Ken Holtzman p


    WP: Ken Holtzman (9-1)
    LP: Tony Cloninger (3-7)
    Sv: Phil Regan (5)
    HR: CIN - Johnny Bench (11). CHI - Ernie Banks (9), Billy Williams (6), Don Young (3).
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    Re: This Date In Reds History (6/6/09): Past Lineups

    35 years ago (1974), a 4-3 loss at Shea Stadium in Queens.

    Cincinnati
    Pete Rose lf
    Dave Concepcion ss
    Johnny Bench 3b
    Dan Driessen 1b
    Terry Crowley rf
    Cesar Geronimo cf
    Hal King c
    Darrel Chaney 2b
    Roger Nelson p

    New York Mets
    Bud Harrelson ss
    Felix Millan 2b
    Cleon Jones lf
    Rusty Staub rf
    John Milner 1b
    Dave Schneck cf
    Wayne Garrett 3b
    Jerry Grote c
    Tom Seaver p


    WP: Ray Sadecki (3-2)
    LP: Pedro Borbon (4-3)
    HR: NY - John Milner (9).
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    Re: This Date In Reds History (6/6/09): Past Lineups

    30 years ago (1979), a 5-3 loss at Riverfront Stadium vs. the Mets.

    New York Mets
    Joel Youngblood 3b
    Frank Taveras ss
    Lee Mazzilli cf
    Willie Montañez 1b
    John Stearns c
    Steve Henderson lf
    Elliott Maddox rf
    Doug Flynn 2b
    Jesse Orosco p

    Cincinnati
    Ken Griffey rf
    Junior Kennedy 2b
    Dave Concepcion ss
    George Foster lf
    Dan Driessen 1b
    Ray Knight 3b
    Paul Blair cf
    Vic Correll c
    Bill Bonham p


    WP: Dale Murray (3-5)
    LP: Manny Sarmiento (0-2)
    Sv: Ed Glynn (2)
    HR: CIN - George Foster (11).
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    25 years ago (1984), a 3-2 14-inning loss at Dodger Stadium in Los Angeles.

    Cincinnati
    Tom Lawless 2b
    Eddie Milner cf
    Gary Redus lf
    Dave Parker rf
    Dave Concepcion 1b
    Nick Esasky 3b
    Dann Bilardello c
    Tom Foley ss
    Mario Soto p

    Los Angeles
    Bob Bailor 2b
    Terry Whitfield rf
    Rick Monday 1b
    Mike A. Marshall lf
    Ken Landreaux cf
    Pedro Guerrero 3b
    Mike Scioscia c
    Bill Russell ss
    Rick Honeycutt p


    WP: Pat Zachry (3-1)
    LP: Tom Hume (3-5)
    HR: CIN - Dave Parker (2). LA - Mike A. Marshall (10).

    Dave Parker, who had been in a season-long home run slump, hit his second homer of the season in Game #56. With Dan Driessen and Cesar Cedeño both injured, and Tony Perez away from the club due to a family emergency, manager Vern Rapp turned to Dave Concepcion to make only his second career start at 1B.
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    Re: This Date In Reds History (6/6/09): Past Lineups

    20 years ago (1989), the Reds split a doubleheader at Riverfront vs. the Giants--winning the opener 4-3, and losing the nightcap 3-2.

    First Game
    San Francisco
    Brett Butler cf
    Robby Thompson 2b
    Will Clark 1b
    Kevin Mitchell lf
    Ernest Riles 3b
    Candy Maldonado rf
    Terry Kennedy c
    Jose Uribe ss
    Terry Mulholland p

    Cincinnati
    Chris Sabo 3b
    Todd Benzinger 1b
    Barry Larkin ss
    Joel Youngblood lf
    Rolando Roomes cf
    Paul O'Neill rf
    Bo Diaz c
    Luis Quiñones 2b
    Scott Scudder p


    WP: John Franco (2-0)
    LP: Mike LaCoss (2-4)
    HR: SF - Kevin Mitchell (20).

    In Game 1, right-hander Scott Scudder made his major-league debut for the Reds. Scudder, Rob Dibble, and John Franco combined on a five-hitter.



    Second Game
    San Francisco
    Donell Nixon cf
    Robby Thompson 2b
    Will Clark 1b
    Kevin Mitchell lf
    Tracy Jones rf
    Greg Litton 3b
    Kirt Manwaring c
    Jose Uribe ss
    Rick Reuschel p

    Cincinnati
    Chris Sabo 3b
    Ken Griffey 1b
    Barry Larkin ss
    Eric Davis cf
    Paul O'Neill rf
    Joel Youngblood lf
    Jeff Reed c
    Ron Oester 2b
    Tom Browning p


    WP: Rick Reuschel (11-2)
    LP: Rob Dibble (4-2)
    Sv: Craig Lefferts (10)
    HR: SF - Kevin Mitchell 2 (22).

    In Game 2, Rick Reuschel and Craig Lefferts combined on a six-hitter for the Giants. Tom Browning and Rob Dibble combined on a five-hitter in a losing effort for the Reds.
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    10 years ago (1999), a 14-3 win at Kauffman Stadium in Kansas City.

    Cincinnati
    Pokey Reese 2b
    Michael Tucker rf
    Sean Casey 1b
    Greg Vaughn dh
    Barry Larkin ss
    Eddie Taubensee c
    Jeffrey Hammonds lf
    Mike Cameron cf
    Aaron Boone 3b

    Pete Harnisch p

    Kansas City
    Carlos Febles 2b
    Carlos Beltran cf
    Johnny Damon lf
    Mike Sweeney 1b
    Jeremy Giambi dh
    Jermaine Dye rf
    Chad Kreuter c
    Joe Randa 3b
    Steve Scarsone ss

    Jay Witasick p


    WP: Scott Sullivan (3-0)
    LP: Jay Witasick (1-5)
    HR: CIN - Greg Vaughn (13).
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    Five years ago (2004), a 6-5 win at Great American Ball Park vs. Les Expos.

    Montreal
    Brad Wilkerson lf
    Endy Chavez cf
    Jose Vidro 2b
    Tony Batista 3b
    Nick Johnson 1b
    Orlando Cabrera ss
    Juan Rivera rf
    Brian Schneider c
    Livan Hernandez p

    Cincinnati
    Ryan Freel rf
    D'Angelo Jimenez 2b
    Sean Casey 1b
    Ken Griffey Jr. cf
    Adam Dunn lf
    Brandon Larson 3b
    Jason LaRue c
    Felipe Lopez ss
    Todd Van Poppel p


    WP: Mike Matthews (1-0)
    LP: Rocky Biddle (0-4)
    HR: CIN - Ken Griffey Jr. 2 (17), Jacob Cruz (1).
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    Re: This Date In Reds History (6/6/09): Past Lineups

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Klu View Post
    35 years ago (1974), a 4-3 loss at Shea Stadium in Queens.

    Cincinnati
    Pete Rose lf
    Dave Concepcion ss
    Johnny Bench 3b
    Dan Driessen 1b
    Terry Crowley rf
    Cesar Geronimo cf
    Hal King c
    Darrel Chaney 2b
    Roger Nelson p

    New York Mets
    Bud Harrelson ss
    Felix Millan 2b
    Cleon Jones lf
    Rusty Staub rf
    John Milner 1b
    Dave Schneck cf
    Wayne Garrett 3b
    Jerry Grote c
    Tom Seaver p


    WP: Ray Sadecki (3-2)
    LP: Pedro Borbon (4-3)
    HR: NY - John Milner (9).

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Klu View Post
    30 years ago (1979), a 5-3 loss at Riverfront Stadium vs. the Mets.

    New York Mets
    Joel Youngblood 3b
    Frank Taveras ss
    Lee Mazzilli cf
    Willie Montañez 1b
    John Stearns c
    Steve Henderson lf
    Elliott Maddox rf
    Doug Flynn 2b
    Jesse Orosco p

    Cincinnati
    Ken Griffey rf
    Junior Kennedy 2b
    Dave Concepcion ss
    George Foster lf
    Dan Driessen 1b
    Ray Knight 3b
    Paul Blair cf
    Vic Correll c
    Bill Bonham p


    WP: Dale Murray (3-5)
    LP: Manny Sarmiento (0-2)
    Sv: Ed Glynn (2)
    HR: CIN - George Foster (11).
    What is really fascinating to me about these updates is looking at the pre-World Champion teams and the post World Champion teams.
    The '75 and '76 lineups were dream lineups. Arguably, there was no more perfect lineups in the history of baseball.
    The holes in the previous and later years can be somewhat painful. That 1974 lineup is quite interesting to say the least. I wonder if Sparky was trying to shake things up: Bench at 3rd? The lack of Perez and Morgan are glaring (I wonder if they were getting a rest that day, or if injuries were in the equation). The lack of Foster and Griffey are also rather glaring - though neither would become full-time starters until later.
    That 1979 lineup is also somewhat painful. Kennedy instead of Morgan is a huge drop off. Knight was no Pete Rose. Driessen was no Tony Perez - he was Okay, but came nowhere near. I assume Correll and Blair were in there to give Bench and Geronimo a rest - but again, the absence is obvious.
    But, all we have to do is look at the other teams' lineups to see we are a bit spoiled. In both 1974 and 1979, The Reds played the Mets. There are only players in both lineups both years (Concepcion and Driessen), but the Reds still had Bench, Foster, Griffey and Geronimo both years. The Mets...it appears they had no one. Consistency helped one team become the team of the 1970s, while the Mets were perennial basement dwellers by this time.

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    Re: This Date In Reds History (6/6/09): Past Lineups

    Quote Originally Posted by MrCinatit View Post
    What is really fascinating to me about these updates is looking at the pre-World Champion teams and the post World Champion teams.
    The '75 and '76 lineups were dream lineups. Arguably, there was no more perfect lineups in the history of baseball.
    The holes in the previous and later years can be somewhat painful. That 1974 lineup is quite interesting to say the least. I wonder if Sparky was trying to shake things up: Bench at 3rd? The lack of Perez and Morgan are glaring (I wonder if they were getting a rest that day, or if injuries were in the equation). The lack of Foster and Griffey are also rather glaring - though neither would become full-time starters until later.
    That 1979 lineup is also somewhat painful. Kennedy instead of Morgan is a huge drop off. Knight was no Pete Rose. Driessen was no Tony Perez - he was Okay, but came nowhere near. I assume Correll and Blair were in there to give Bench and Geronimo a rest - but again, the absence is obvious.
    But, all we have to do is look at the other teams' lineups to see we are a bit spoiled. In both 1974 and 1979, The Reds played the Mets. There are only players in both lineups both years (Concepcion and Driessen), but the Reds still had Bench, Foster, Griffey and Geronimo both years. The Mets...it appears they had no one. Consistency helped one team become the team of the 1970s, while the Mets were perennial basement dwellers by this time.
    Both games were weekday afternoon games. (6/6/74 was a Thurday, and 6/6/79 was a Wednesday.) So that would explain why some regulars were sitting.

    Perez and Morgan were usually in the lineup in 1974, as Driessen was the regular 3B that season. But RF was a revolving door, with Crowley, Rettenmund, Griffey, and Foster (who also was Geronimo's backup in CF). Griffey was actually at Indianapolis at the time, but would be recalled shortly.

    In 1979, Bench was just getting a day off, but Morgan missed quite a bit of time with nagging injuries. Geronimo had really dropped off offensively, and was now in a straight platoon in CF with Blair, who got the start against the lefty Orosco. On the other hand, Driessen and Knight were solid performers. Knight had his best season of his career, hitting .318/.360/.454/.814 with 10 HR's and 79 RBI's while often hitting in the #6 or #7 spot in the order. Driessen was a steady, if unspectacular, player who toiled in the immense shadow of Tony Perez and the ghosts of the BRM.
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