http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4229022
So, Hall of Famer or not?
And, how long until Barry Bonds announces his "retirement"?
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4229022
So, Hall of Famer or not?
And, how long until Barry Bonds announces his "retirement"?
Sosa's a tough case. He's almost certainly not going to get voted in, IMO. But where's the proof that he ever cheated? Do I, from a personal standpoint, remain highly suspicious of him? Yes, I do. But there is absolutely NO proof at all, not even shady proof, that he used steroids. So I find it kind of shocking that he's already assumed to be guilty. If I had a vote, I'd put him in.Originally Posted by Eric_the_Red
Sosa wasn't already retired? I thought he was.
As for the hall...definite NO in my book. Steroids or no steroids...it's already proven he's a cheater. Ummm...I can't remember, what's that stuff they use to seal wine bottles again?
Agree. He should be in the 'Hall of Shame' instead.Sosa wasn't already retired? I thought he was.
As for the hall...definite NO in my book. Steroids or no steroids...it's already proven he's a cheater. Ummm...I can't remember, what's that stuff they use to seal wine bottles again?
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gasp swoon, he got caught corking one time.
guess we better not let anybody who got caught cheating in. Like Gaylord Perry or Phil Neikro
Dubito Ergo Cogito Ergo Sum.
He had been still trying to find work the last few years.Sosa wasn't already retired? I thought he was.
As for the hall...definite NO in my book. Steroids or no steroids...it's already proven he's a cheater. Ummm...I can't remember, what's that stuff they use to seal wine bottles again?
I have not decided if he should be in or not, but I agree with you he probably will not.
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A class of players from a tainted generation will soon be eligible. The Hall is going to need to set up some ground rules.
I'd have to really look over his career numbers, but as a Cubs hater, I hope he doesn't make it.
I am 100% behind you here. I don't condone what any of the players did who used steroids. But it is an ENTIRE ERA, literally. I'm not exaggerating that. An entire ERA! I mean, think about that for a second. You have to let them in. As I've said before, build a 'Roids wing for all I care. But they have to do something.
I thought he was retired?I think eventually most of these steriod guys will get in but they may have to wait a while. The writers who vote on this will find it hard to keep so many out all the while knowing most players from the early 90's to the early 2000's probably at least tried something.
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Key word there is "caught" in my mind. And while we're on it, if breaking the rules keeps you out of the Hall like they say with Rose, then yes...keep out all the rule breakers. Or ignore that garbage and induct players on thier stats...period. Hall of Fame will always be a joke in my eyes when the all time hits leader isn't in there. But that's me.
When was Phil Niekro caught? His brother Joe was caught scuffing baseballs but I don't remember Phil being caught doing that.
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Perry was, and he's in the Hall.
I'm sure woy could provide a better list.
It's supposed to be the Hall of Fame. Sammy had Fame.
Rose had Fame, but the Hall, not baseball changed it's eligibility rules. I wish people would start getting that right.
Dubito Ergo Cogito Ergo Sum.
Yeah, I knew that. Doesn't change my opinion on it though. It should be about stats...not character or lack thereof.
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