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    Re: Lincoln heading to Louisville?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ltlabner View Post
    Am I on the Sun Deck?
    I'm having a Capricorn One experience myself.

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    Re: Lincoln heading to Louisville?

    his inverted BB/K ratio tells a sad story and there is no way around it. No pitcher can be successful with those kind of numbers.
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    Re: Lincoln heading to Louisville?

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    I'm having a Capricorn One experience myself.
    Worst movie ending ever.

    Anyway, take a likely .500 team, take away the best pitcher and best hitter, the next best hitter in a fierce slump, and take away probably the fourth best hitter, and what kind of team do you have?

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    Re: Lincoln heading to Louisville?

    Send him outright to AAA. We owe him the money, might as well make him pitch for it and bring him back up later in the season if we're going nowhere.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: Lincoln heading to Louisville?

    I hardly see how this thread is a knee-jerk reaction.

    Lincoln has been a train wreck all season long. It's about time to see some course of action on him, IMO

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    Re: Lincoln heading to Louisville?

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    I'm having a Capricorn One experience myself.
    Isn't that the one with OJ?

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    Re: Lincoln heading to Louisville?

    I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Mike Lincoln has no options left. The only way he goes to AAA is if the Reds pay the rest of his multi-million dollar contract.

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    Re: Lincoln heading to Louisville?

    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Mike Lincoln has no options left. The only way he goes to AAA is if the Reds pay the rest of his multi-million dollar contract.
    The money is a sunk cost. At this point, put the best arms in the pen. You gain nothing by letting him keep getting lit up. Either he'll accept the demotion or somebody will pick him up -- the way he's pitching right now, the most value we could get from him is paying him to pitch for somebody who we'll play down the road.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Lincoln heading to Louisville?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    The money is a sunk cost. At this point, put the best arms in the pen. You gain nothing by letting him keep getting lit up. Either he'll accept the demotion or somebody will pick him up -- the way he's pitching right now, the most value we could get from him is paying him to pitch for somebody who we'll play down the road.
    I agree completely. I'm just sick of hearing, "Send him to Louisville!" when it isn't even an option right now--no pun intended.

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    Re: Lincoln heading to Louisville?

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    Isn't that the one with OJ?
    O.J. Simpson played Cmdr. John Walker in that movie. All in all pretty good cast Elliott Gould, Hal Holbrook, Telly Savalas, and Sam Waterston.
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    Re: Lincoln heading to Louisville?

    Quote Originally Posted by HumnHilghtFreel View Post
    I hardly see how this thread is a knee-jerk reaction.

    Lincoln has been a train wreck all season long. It's about time to see some course of action on him, IMO
    He was real bad the 2nd half of last year. Why they gave him a multi-million let alone a 2 year contract was perplexing.

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    Re: Lincoln heading to Louisville?

    Quote Originally Posted by 4256 Hits View Post
    He was real bad the 2nd half of last year. Why they gave him a multi-million let alone a 2 year contract was perplexing.
    Walt screwed up, it happens.

    What is inexcusable is compounding the mistake by keeping him around. His peripherals are beyond abysmal. Relievers ERA is more sensitive to the randomness of the game but this is not the case with Lincoln in 2009.
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    Re: Lincoln heading to Louisville?

    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    I agree completely. I'm just sick of hearing, "Send him to Louisville!" when it isn't even an option right now--no pun intended.
    I am fairly certain sending him to Louisville, is an option, but he would have to be DFAed, Clear Waivers, be outrighted to Louisville, and agree to the assignment, which he would have every right to reject. The Reds would still have to pay his salary, I highly doubt that any team out there will snag him if he is put on waivers, unless some scout has picked up on whatever flaw he may have. Are the Reds still paying Mike Stanton?
    The Sox traded Bullfrog the only player they've got for Shottenhoffen. Four-eyes Shottenhoffen a utility infielder. They've got a whole team of utility infielders.

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    Re: Lincoln heading to Louisville?

    Quote Originally Posted by LoganBuck View Post
    I am fairly certain sending him to Louisville, is an option, but he would have to be DFAed, Clear Waivers, be outrighted to Louisville, and agree to the assignment, which he would have every right to reject. The Reds would still have to pay his salary, I highly doubt that any team out there will snag him if he is put on waivers, unless some scout has picked up on whatever flaw he may have. Are the Reds still paying Mike Stanton?
    To further on that, because Lincoln has 3+ years of service time, he can refuse the assignment, and because he has 5+ years of service time, he gets paid the same either way. There's no way the Reds can get out of paying him (unless trading him somehow becomes possible), and there's no way Lincoln can go to Louisville unless he gives the Reds permission to send him there. If he were DFAed, I think he'd elect to become a free agent and go to a team that has more need for him, which is probably 80+% of Major League teams right now.

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    Re: Lincoln heading to Louisville?

    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    To further on that, because Lincoln has 3+ years of service time, he can refuse the assignment, and because he has 5+ years of service time, he gets paid the same either way. There's no way the Reds can get out of paying him (unless trading him somehow becomes possible), and there's no way Lincoln can go to Louisville unless he gives the Reds permission to send him there. If he were DFAed, I think he'd elect to become a free agent and go to a team that has more need for him, which is probably 80+% of Major League teams right now.
    80% is a pretty big exaggeration. There's much better, younger pitchers DFA'ed on an almost regular basis.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."


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