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    Re: Mike Leake

    Quote Originally Posted by DTCromer View Post
    If true, that's something the Reds have been missing since. . .well, . . .it's been a loong time.
    Since Cueto came up last year?

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    Re: Mike Leake

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    Don't love the pick but don't hate it either, I guess I will take a wait and see approach.
    When you look at past MLB drafts and the fail rate of most of these players, I'm not sure how anyone could hate or love a pick right away unless there are things that are so obvious to ignore.

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    Re: Mike Leake

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitz Dorsey View Post
    Since Cueto came up last year?
    Hmmm, I think he's still learning and improving as his HR's given up this year seemed are down a bit. Not there yet.

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    Re: Mike Leake

    So are we looking at a #2 pitcher here?

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    Re: Mike Leake

    So are we looking at a #2 pitcher here?
    I'd say that's a best case scenario. The consensus seems to be a #3

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    Re: Mike Leake

    If he is a command ground ball pitcher, like the reports I have seen, then I really like the pick. Good sinker ball pitchers don't have great velocity, they keep the ball down the zone, throw strikes, dont allow HR's, and are very good pitchers. I haven't heard anyone describe Brandon Webb as a pitcher who blows you away with stuff. What I have heard said about him is that he throws a heavy ball. At GABP I will take a heavy ball.

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    Re: Mike Leake

    anyone hear an ETA?
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    Re: Mike Leake

    What I like about Leake is the easy stroke on his pitches. That can make your fastball look faster and disguise a changeup something fierce. He destroys timing.

    Nothing's guaranteed, but I really liked this guy before the draft.
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    Re: Mike Leake

    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    I haven't heard anyone describe Brandon Webb as a pitcher who blows you away with stuff.
    Yet he sports a 7.3 k/9 for his career -- so he's clearly blowing quite a few people away with his stuff.

    I watched the MLB.com clip of Leake, and the commentary was "Good competitor, good command, around the plate all the time, but not going to be a high strikeout pitcher." I'm rarely (read: never) in favor of using a high pick on a pitcher who doesn't project to be high-strikeout / power pitcher material. Get your finesse guys later in the draft.
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    Re: Mike Leake

    So this is one of those picks that might be a hit, but reading between the lines it sounds like we drafted for signability and safety. He's likely to be solid, but not awe inspiring.

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    Re: Mike Leake

    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph View Post
    So this is one of those picks that might be a hit, but reading between the lines it sounds like we drafted for signability and safety. He's likely to be solid, but not awe inspiring.
    Pretty much my read on the situation. I don't think Leake was the best player available, but he was probably the best combination of "likely to sign at slot" and "likely to reach the majors in some capacity." The better players all had a little more risk attached or a few more dollar signs behind their names.

    Interesting to note: second straight year the Reds have drafted a player on the fast track to the bigs at a spot on the diamond where there is a logjam of talent. Though, in their defense, it's never a bad thing to have too much pitching.
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    Re: Mike Leake

    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor View Post
    Yet he sports a 7.3 k/9 for his career -- so he's clearly blowing quite a few people away with his stuff.

    I watched the MLB.com clip of Leake, and the commentary was "Good competitor, good command, around the plate all the time, but not going to be a high strikeout pitcher." I'm rarely (read: never) in favor of using a high pick on a pitcher who doesn't project to be high-strikeout / power pitcher material. Get your finesse guys later in the draft.

    I like Leake but Leake would have looked a whole lot better with a high ceiling guy with our bonus selection in the supplemental round. What does he do goes and drafts a back of the rotation starter/MR 40 players into the draft! Wow!!?!
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    Re: Mike Leake

    The one thing that is starting to annoy me, I must admit, is folks assuming this was a "signability" pick. Unless you have firsthand knowledge (which really most if not all of you naysayers don't), you should knock off the signability claims.

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    Re: Mike Leake

    I like Leake but Leake would have looked a whole lot better with a high ceiling guy with our bonus selection in the supplemental round. What does he do goes and drafts a back of the rotation starter/MR 40 players into the draft! Wow!!?!
    That's what pissed me off. Leake was definitely not my favorite pick, but I thought they were going to use the money and go after someone big in the supplemental round...and then we drafted a guy named Boxberger over Scheppers? It's just frustrating to know that Crow and Scheppers could both have been had if we weren't so cheap.
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    Re: Mike Leake

    Quote Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1 View Post
    The one thing that is starting to annoy me, I must admit, is folks assuming this was a "signability" pick. Unless you have firsthand knowledge (which really most if not all of you naysayers don't), you should knock off the signability claims.
    No one is claiming any "insider" knowledge -- just doing some speculation based on the available information. It seems like, if signability was no concern, the logical pick would've been Crow -- who is almost universally rated as having better stuff than Leake and is slightly more advanced than Leake in terms of development (having pitched outside of college last year).
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