First, I was upset when the Reds signed Taveras. Never understood the signing, with Dickerson already on the team.
I hope that Dusty will start Dickerson in CF for the rest of the season.
But I will make this absurd prediction. If Taveras does start the rest of the season (or at least platoons ) he will finish the season with an OBP of around .350.
He just needs to bunt more and hit the ball on the ground more, and he will get on base. He is well below his career averages for GB/FB, BUH, and IFH.
I have faith that Jocketty, Jacoby and Baker will make sure he does that correct those, or make sure that he does not start.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge." -- Albert Einstein
Well, it you think that, then you should think that he will finish with an OBP of .329, which means that he will OBP around .360 the rest of the way. Which is basically my point.
Right now, due to an 0-19 slump (Pujols just had an 0-16 slump) he is off of his career numbers. I think if he gets enough playing time, they will come back to his norm.
However, even if he did do that, I would still want Dickerson over him.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge." -- Albert Einstein
I'm not arguing for WT. I'm just saying that the knocks on him are obvious and are just repeated on here, time and again in thread after thread. I'm also saying that if his offensive woes continue, I'm confident the Reds will bench him.
At least he's played good defense -- and that point I will argue if others disagree. Every defensive measure I've seen shows that he has been good defensively this year.
I'm also saying that the team's offensive woes go way beyond Willy Taveras.
How about some threads criticizing the others with low OBPs or miniscule slugging percentages. Just to break things up a little.
Last edited by Kc61; 06-11-2009 at 08:35 AM.
This is easy. Its Dickerson. Taveras is just not a smart player. Just look at his AB on Tuesday night after Ceuto walks on 4 pitches. Instead of actually making a pitcher throw a strike he immediatley swings at two pitches that are clearly out of the strike zone. To me that shows a very low baseball IQ. Dickerson is no great player either but is clearly a better choice at the moment.
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Gotta be Dickerson at this point -- he's shown he can defend in CF, and his plate approach is much better than WT's. It remains to be seen whether Baker can actually bring himself to bench Taveras.
I would rather have Gary Redus and Eddie Mllner ...right now over WT and JHJ.
Janish over AG.
I would sit Bruce against more LH....not all but just some, at least.
From Lance's blog:
Forget leadoff, I would ask you if Taveras should even be the CF? I know Dusty gets irriated by talk of playing the "hot hand". I can only point out the facts. This team struggles to get runnners on base.
If you can't get on, you can't get over and you can't get in.
Willy Taveras: BA .243, OBP .300, OPS .606
Chris Dickerson: BA .244, OBP .373, OPS .734
Taveras is hitless in his last 20 ab's and 1 for his last 25
Dickerson is hitting .308 in his last 12 starts
And consider this from emailer Jeff:
Wily Taveras had 14 game hitting streak between 4/29-5/13.
Taveras during 14 games streak: 24-59 .407 avg Reds go 10-4
Taveras in other 44 games: 22-130 .169 avg Reds are 21-23
Maybe it's simply the hamstring still bothering Taveras...fine.
Play Dickerson til he shows you he should sit. He showed the glove over the weekend. He's a much better CF than LF. Wayne Krivsky always said that. If he has the glove and he's getting on-base. And your "team" is about pitching, speed and defense, what's the downside to playing Dickerson for now?
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He got a poor jump on the ball to begin with. It could've been a double, but either way...you can't allow that to happen in a close game, especially with 1 out. Willy is very lucky Harang was able to get out of that unscathed. You never want to see a guy at 3rd base (and with less than 2 outs no less).
Dickerson is far better (and younger and cheaper), with a much higher ceiling than Taveras in everything (but stealing bases).
Heisey and Stubbs, down on the farm, are BOTH arguably better than Taveras.
Stubbs and Dickerson should platoon NOW. Stubbs is ready and Heisey needs challenged in Louisville.
There simply is no reason that Willy Taveras should occupy a roster spot with this team.
Sad thing is, that this is just common sense type stuff that many of us have been saying for months, even when they were just flirting with the idea of signing Willy.
You know, common sense type stuff like Gomes over McDonald. Wow. Rocket science.
This argument just boils down to time but has nothing to do with talent. A smart management team should make decision based on talent instead of time.
Everyone understands that Taveras has more time in the majors than Dickerson. Yet, the only thing Taveras has done with that time is demonstrate that he's not very good. Dickerson hasn't had as much time in the majors, but so far he's demonstrated that he's a better player than Taveras. That said, he's also shown the same when you compare their minor league numbers.
How do we know he's not Mel Torme?
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