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    Homer Bailey hypothetical trade talk

    I saw this on another message board and I thought it was a pretty interesting idea worth tossing around to see how others would react.

    Would you trade Homer Bailey for Brandon Wood in a 1 for 1 straight up deal?

    Both players will be out of options after this year and must stick in the majors. Both have had some trouble adjusting to the majors in their previous calls, both are former top 10 prospects and both are performing well in AAA.

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    Brandon Wood Stats over the last 3 seasons
    
    Year	Age	 	PA	AB	H	2B	3B	HR	BB	SO	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS	BB%	K%	IsoP
    2007	22	AAA	488	437	119	27	1	23	45	120	.272	.338	.497	835	9.2%	24.6%	.225
    2007	22	MLB	33	33	5	1	0	1	0	12	.152	.152	.273	425	0.0%	36.4%	.121
    2008	23	AAA	447	395	118	21	2	31	45	103	.299	.378	.597	975	10.1%	23.0%	.298
    2008	23	MLB	157	150	30	4	0	5	4	43	.200	.223	.327	550	2.5%	27.4%	.127
    2009	24	AAA	202	179	54	9	1	15	22	39	.302	.376	.615	991	10.9%	19.3%	.313
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    Homer Bailey stats over the past three years
    
    Year	Age	 	IP	TBF	H	HR	BB	K	ERA	BB%	K%	K/BB
    2007	21	AAA	67.1	278	49	4	32	59	3.07	11.5%	21.2%	1.8
    2007	21	MLB	45.1	205	43	3	28	28	5.76	13.7%	13.7%	1.0
    2008	22	AAA	111.1	480	118	10	46	96	4.77	9.6%	20.0%	2.1
    2008	22	MLB	36.1	180	59	8	17	18	7.93	9.4%	10.0%	1.1
    2009	23	AAA	74.2	320	74	9	24	67	3.13	7.5%	20.9%	2.8
    2009	23	MLB	4.1	22	3	1	6	3	12.47	27.3%	13.6%	0.5
    Both guys obviously have a lot of talent, but is this something you would do and why or why not?

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    Re: Homer Bailey hypothetical trade talk

    I'd say probably not straight up, Homer is a pitcher and seems to have a slightly better future ahead of him at this point. Wood befuddles me but looking at the #'s he seems to have an awesome penchant for striking out. I'd have to see him to try to figure out what his issue is and if it's fixable. But it may not be fixable ala Brandon Larson, whereas I've seen enough of Homer to believe he will pitch in some capacity at the big league level. If the deal were expandable maybe something could be worked out but straight up I'd have to pass.
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    Re: Homer Bailey hypothetical trade talk

    Yes, I would do this trade.

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    hmmmm...very interesting concept probably for both teams. The Reds certainly have a spot for him next season at SS, and he can reasonably play SS. I think I would do it; I think the change of scenery would be good for both players and at least the Reds would still have some depth at pitching (meanwhile we have no real SS on the near horizon). I think if Wood was given the job, he would be fine; the Angels have kinda jerked him around when they have brought him up...Bailey probably feels the same way about how the Reds have used him...

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    Why has Brandon Wood not done anything at the MLB level? Based on his stats from the minors, and the position that he plays I want him, but what is the catch. I must plead ignorance of LA Angles of Anaheim baseball. I haven't watched a game of theirs since they were in the World Series.
    The Sox traded Bullfrog the only player they've got for Shottenhoffen. Four-eyes Shottenhoffen a utility infielder. They've got a whole team of utility infielders.

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    Re: Homer Bailey hypothetical trade talk

    Wood is viewed as a 3rd baseman long term isnt he?

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    I'm not sure if that is the case or not. I believe that he has played mostly 3B in MLB because of injuries to Chone...My understanding is that he is about average defensively as a SS. This season in AAA he has played 25 games at SS (2 errors) and 18 games at 3B (2 errors) according to baseball reference.

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    Re: Homer Bailey hypothetical trade talk

    Quote Originally Posted by LoganBuck View Post
    Why has Brandon Wood not done anything at the MLB level? Based on his stats from the minors, and the position that he plays I want him, but what is the catch. I must plead ignorance of LA Angles of Anaheim baseball. I haven't watched a game of theirs since they were in the World Series.
    Well lets take a look at his usage pattern.

    2009 - The Angels called him up April 21st. He got into 3 games. April 24th as a pinch hitter. April 26th (game in between) he got a start. Then he sat 4 games and started on May 2nd and went 2-4 with a walk. Then he was sent down 4 days later without playing again.

    2008 - Called him up in late April. He started 11 of 12, struggled, then was sent down for 12 games, then called back up. Stuck with him for 18 games this time, then sent him back down. This time for 56 games. Then they called him up for roughly the last 30 games of the year where he hit .256/.270/.430. His main issue was 2 walks and 22 strikeouts over that time. Last year in AAA Wood was at 104/33 for K/BB. This year he is incredibly better at 39/22.

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    Re: Homer Bailey hypothetical trade talk

    Since Homer added the splitter:

    23.1 IP
    17 H
    1 ER
    4 BB
    23 K

    The one run scored against him was by the league's best offense. Right now, Homer is not on the table.

    I assume Wood plays in the PCL?

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    Re: Homer Bailey hypothetical trade talk

    I'd pull the trigger, yes.

    Would you do it Doug?

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    Re: Homer Bailey hypothetical trade talk

    Could Wood be had for a package of anything not named Homer Bailey?

    Roenicke + Francisco?
    The Sox traded Bullfrog the only player they've got for Shottenhoffen. Four-eyes Shottenhoffen a utility infielder. They've got a whole team of utility infielders.

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    Re: Homer Bailey hypothetical trade talk

    I'd like to think of it in terms of risk.

    Both guys have struggled but which one would you guys think has the better chance of turning it around?

    I'd lean towards bailey because of just the nature of pitching.

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    Re: Homer Bailey hypothetical trade talk

    Quote Originally Posted by GOYA View Post
    Since Homer added the splitter:

    23.1 IP
    17 H
    1 ER
    4 BB
    23 K

    The one run scored against him was by the league's best offense. Right now, Homer is not on the table.

    I assume Wood plays in the PCL?
    Wood does indeed play in the PCL. I am not sure if I would pull the trigger on the deal. I would like to see Wood play this year to be honest. With that said, I think that while Bailey is the #1 arm not in the majors, the #2 guy is right there with him (Stewart). It makes moving him a little easier. Its a tough one though, I still think Bailey can be a #1 starter, but at the same time if the discipline improvements that Wood is showing are real, he can be an all start at SS or 3B.

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    Re: Homer Bailey hypothetical trade talk

    Quote Originally Posted by LoganBuck View Post
    Could Wood be had for a package of anything not named Homer Bailey?

    Roenicke + Francisco?
    I would doubt it. I think maybe if you replace Roenicke with maybe Travis Wood you might be on the right track, but still probably have to add something to that package.

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    Re: Homer Bailey hypothetical trade talk

    I would trade Arroyo or Cordero for him.


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