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    Re: Homer Bailey hypothetical trade talk

    Quote Originally Posted by krm1580 View Post
    I am a firm believer in the theory that you can never have too much pitching. If you look around the league and see how much garbage there is at the back end of most major league rotations, you can really do some damage over 162 games if your #4 or #5 guys profile as league average #3.
    Not if you can't score any runs.

    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    The game is evolving, and defense is becoming more important.
    And pitching is defense #1.

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    Re: Homer Bailey hypothetical trade talk

    Quote Originally Posted by *BaseClogger* View Post
    Who cares about trends? I want the best baseball players...
    +1

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    Re: Homer Bailey hypothetical trade talk

    If Wood can stick at SS I do it. Otherwise, I'd try a different package.
    "All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH

    Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS

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    Re: Homer Bailey hypothetical trade talk

    The Salt Lake Bees ballpark is 4,229 feet above sea level

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    Re: Homer Bailey hypothetical trade talk

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Well lets take a look at his usage pattern.

    2009 - The Angels called him up April 21st. He got into 3 games. April 24th as a pinch hitter. April 26th (game in between) he got a start. Then he sat 4 games and started on May 2nd and went 2-4 with a walk. Then he was sent down 4 days later without playing again.

    2008 - Called him up in late April. He started 11 of 12, struggled, then was sent down for 12 games, then called back up. Stuck with him for 18 games this time, then sent him back down. This time for 56 games. Then they called him up for roughly the last 30 games of the year where he hit .256/.270/.430. His main issue was 2 walks and 22 strikeouts over that time. Last year in AAA Wood was at 104/33 for K/BB. This year he is incredibly better at 39/22.
    Speaking of trends that's an interesting one! Call me on the fence but I'd still lean away from trading Homer for him presently. I'd like to find out more about his defense. And maybe see if I can dig up anything about him making any adjustments that would have caused such an improvement in the K/BB ratio. I'd certainly like to add all the legit potential SS prospects I can until I find a good one though no doubt.
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    Re: Homer Bailey hypothetical trade talk

    I'd rather look for a legit catching prospect. With Cozart almost ready for AAA, SS is not a pressing need and we may have a jam up there when Valaika returns. Catcher is clear all the way down to Coddington.

    (I can't believe Mesoraco made the FSL All-Star team)

    (edit: because I'm an idiot)
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    Re: Homer Bailey hypothetical trade talk

    How about a legit catching prospect plus Brandon Wood? The Angels have a 21 year old at AA named Hank Conger who is the Project Prospect #128. What would it take to get Wood and Conger and maybe take care of two problems for the next several years?

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    Re: Homer Bailey hypothetical trade talk

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    I think its evolving to a point where lesser bats don't hurt as much because the leagues OPS is down across the board. Still, if some of the options are .600 OPS shortstops of Brandon Wood types, give me the BW types all day long.
    you still didn't answer whether you would do it or not.

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    Re: Homer Bailey hypothetical trade talk

    Quote Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1 View Post
    you still didn't answer whether you would do it or not.
    Still not sure if I would or not. I would like to see Brandon Wood play this year before making that kind of decision.

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    I like it. Shortstop could be a problem next year. I really can't see the Reds resigning Gonzalez at his present salary. All of the Reds prospects at short are maybes and Woods is probably better than all of them. Whether or not they do well Arroyo and Harang are here through 2010. No one will take their salaries in this economy with their stats like they are. The other Woods should be ready and there is Fairel and Stewart.

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    Re: Homer Bailey hypothetical trade talk

    Quote Originally Posted by HokieRed View Post
    How about a legit catching prospect plus Brandon Wood? The Angels have a 21 year old at AA named Hank Conger who is the Project Prospect #128. What would it take to get Wood and Conger and maybe take care of two problems for the next several years?
    From what little I've read it seems that it's questionable that Conger will provide enough defensively to stick at catcher.
    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
    I like it. Shortstop could be a problem next year. I really can't see the Reds resigning Gonzalez at his present salary. All of the Reds prospects at short are maybes and Woods is probably better than all of them. Whether or not they do well Arroyo and Harang are here through 2010. No one will take their salaries in this economy with their stats like they are. The other Woods should be ready and there is Fairel and Stewart.
    And 2010 is just around the corner. After 2010 one will likely be gone and it's possible that both could be gone. I'm not sure we can say we have enough pitching depth to deal Bailey for a player who may end up at 3rd (where we have depth) instead of ss.


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