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    Louisville Pitching

    The good ones:

    Homer Bailey, since returning from his start for Cincy:

    29.1 IP - 7 BB - 24 K - 0.92 ERA

    Justin Lehr, since rejoining the Bats: (last start was 9 IP - 2 ER)

    27 IP - 2 BB - 12 K - 2.67 ERA

    Robert Manuel, last 10 games:

    15.2 IP - 1 BB - 10 K - 0.00 ERA

    Pedro Viola, last 10 games:

    11.1 IP - 6 BB - 14 K - 0.79 ERA

    Josh Roenicke, last 10 games:

    9.2 IP - 1 BB - 8 K - 0.00 ERA - 8 Saves

    Federico Baez, last 5 games:

    7.2 IP - 2 BB - 2 K - 1.17 ERA

    Ramon Ramirez, last 3 games (maybe he's getting there):

    17 IP - 7 BB - 8 K - 2.12 ERA


    But then there are the ones that aren't there yet:

    Sam LeCure, last 10 games:

    56.1 IP - 18 BB - 48 K - 5.59 ERA

    Ben Jukich - Last 10 games:

    21.2 IP - 7 BB - 17 K - 6.65 ERA


    And the journeymen:

    Adam Pettyjohn - last 10 games:

    26 IP - 10 BB - 12 K - 5.19 ERA

    Jeff Kennard - last 10 games:

    13.2 IP - 4 BB - 11 K - 5.27 ERA

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    Re: Louisville Pitching

    Some very nice numbers there.
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    Re: Louisville Pitching

    Manuel, Roenicke, and Viola are all future major league relievers, IMO.

    Manuel reminds me of a David Weathers type. Average fastball velocity with good movement and a solid slider.

    Roenicke has a big arm and his control has improved a lot this season. He's ready for the majors now, IMO.

    Viola has the stuff to be a dominant lefty out of the pen. I've seen him pitch a couple times on TV during ST and I was wowed by his stuff. His control will determine whether he's a dominant bullpen arm or merely a solid one.
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    Re: Louisville Pitching

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Manuel, Roenicke, and Viola are all future major league relievers, IMO.

    Manuel reminds me of a David Weathers type. Average fastball velocity with good movement and a solid slider.

    Roenicke has a big arm and his control has improved a lot this season. He's ready for the majors now, IMO.

    Viola has the stuff to be a dominant lefty out of the pen. I've seen him pitch a couple times on TV during ST and I was wowed by his stuff. His control will determine whether he's a dominant bullpen arm or merely a solid one.
    And Homer slides into the rotation, that is a third of our big league pitchers promoted in one season (if you count Bailey). With Stubbs and possibly others inserted into the lineup and we will have a huge infusion of youth next season.
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    Re: Louisville Pitching

    With the Tigers, Yankees, Angels, and Rangers all having major bullpen issues, you gotta think they might be interested in at least one of our arms. Do any of these teams having any shortstop prospects that could be targeted if we were to ship them one of our relievers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Manuel, Roenicke, and Viola are all future major league relievers, IMO.

    Manuel reminds me of a David Weathers type. Average fastball velocity with good movement and a solid slider.

    Roenicke has a big arm and his control has improved a lot this season. He's ready for the majors now, IMO.

    Viola has the stuff to be a dominant lefty out of the pen. I've seen him pitch a couple times on TV during ST and I was wowed by his stuff. His control will determine whether he's a dominant bullpen arm or merely a solid one.
    Yes, the AAA bullpen is a position of great strength in this organization, with Fisher already called up. Lutz at AA could also joing them soon when healthy, a ground ball guy.

    With Bailey, Stewart, Wood and some others (Smith, maybe Lecure) starting pitching is again becoming a position of strength although slightly behind these bullpenners in development.

    And with Stubbs at AAA and the mighty Carolina group of Frazier, Heisey, Alonso, Francisco, and perhaps Henry, the next round of bats is on its way as well.

    That's about 15 guys at the high levels with reasonable to good chances of making the majors in the next few years. And I'm sure I'm leaving some out. Like Valaika who is injured and Ramirez who has shown flashes of excellence.
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    Re: Louisville Pitching

    Quote Originally Posted by GOYA View Post
    The good ones:

    Homer Bailey, since returning from his start for Cincy:

    37.1 IP - 8 BB - 31 K - 0.72 ERA

    Justin Lehr, since rejoining the Bats: (last start was 9 IP - 2 ER)

    27 IP - 2 BB - 12 K - 2.67 ERA

    Robert Manuel, last 10 games:

    15.2 IP - 1 BB - 10 K - 0.00 ERA

    Pedro Viola, last 10 games:

    11.1 IP - 6 BB - 14 K - 0.79 ERA

    Josh Roenicke, last 10 games:

    9.2 IP - 1 BB - 8 K - 0.00 ERA - 8 Saves

    Federico Baez, last 5 games:

    7.2 IP - 2 BB - 2 K - 1.17 ERA

    Ramon Ramirez, last 3 games (maybe he's getting there):

    17 IP - 7 BB - 8 K - 2.12 ERA


    But then there are the ones that aren't there yet:

    Sam LeCure, last 10 games:

    56.1 IP - 18 BB - 48 K - 5.59 ERA

    Ben Jukich - Last 10 games:

    21.2 IP - 7 BB - 17 K - 6.65 ERA


    And the journeymen:

    Adam Pettyjohn - last 10 games:

    26 IP - 10 BB - 12 K - 5.19 ERA

    Jeff Kennard - last 10 games:

    13.2 IP - 4 BB - 11 K - 5.27 ERA
    Bailey's numbers updated
    Last edited by GOYA; 06-17-2009 at 07:41 PM.

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    Re: Louisville Pitching

    Don't forget Daryl Thompson although probably as a reliever if he can ever get away from the injury bug.
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    Re: Louisville Pitching

    LeCure is becoming much better.

    For the month of June (5 starts):

    30.2 IP - 26 H - 9 ER - 10 BB - 27 K - 2.64 ERA and 1.17 WHIP

    He hasn't allowed a run in his last two starts and has pitched 13.2 scoreless inning in a row.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOYA View Post
    LeCure is becoming much better.

    For the month of June (5 starts):

    30.2 IP - 26 H - 9 ER - 10 BB - 27 K - 2.64 ERA and 1.17 WHIP

    He hasn't allowed a run in his last two starts and has pitched 13.2 scoreless inning in a row.

    Lecure had two streaks like this (probably even better) at AA last year. I'm not surprised this has happened. Last year he had an injury which stopped his streak and then it took awhile for him to get back in form.

    He's only pitched 30 innings in the five outings, would like to see them stretch him out to 7 innings per outing if possible. He's getting close and should get a shot with the Reds or in a trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    He's only pitched 30 innings in the five outings, would like to see them stretch him out to 7 innings per outing if possible. He's getting close and should get a shot with a trade.


    I hope we could convince another team that LeCure has value. This time next year, he'll likely be out of the organization either way- hopefully its via trade where we actually get something nice back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    He's only pitched 30 innings in the five outings, would like to see them stretch him out to 7 innings per outing if possible.
    Yep, that is the one thing that stands out. From his last few starts:

    6/25: 6 IP - Pitches-strikes: LeCure 102-60 - 59%

    6/19: 6.2 IP - Pitches-strikes: LeCure 101-60 - 59%

    6/14: 5 IP - Pitches-strikes: LeCure 99-59 - 60%

    6/9: 8 IP - Pitches-strikes: LeCure 113-71 - 63%

    6/4: 5 IP - Pitches-strikes: LeCure 104-62 - 60%

    If he could improve his strike rate just a little and be more economical with his pitches, he may turn out to be a very good one.

    For contrast, Lehr's last start:

    6/24: 8 IP - Pitches-strikes: Lehr 79-54 - 68%

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    Re: Louisville Pitching

    These are Lehr's numbers at Louisville:



    Notice his only rough game was against the team he had just left a couple of weeks earlier.

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    Re: Louisville Pitching

    Ben Jukich
    Travis Wood
    Sam LeCure
    Camilo Vazquez
    Tom Cochran

    Greg Atencio
    Federico Baez
    Lee Tabor
    Jeff Kennard
    Pedro Viola
    Enerio Del Rosario
    Logan Ondrusek

    Bolded players were with the club when I started this thread in mid-June.

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    Re: Louisville Pitching

    Well, scratch Viola. No word yet on who will replace him. Could be Sean Watson again.

    For those that haven't heard, Viola was called up to the Reds.


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