Well, this has turned into an amusing thread.
Well, this has turned into an amusing thread.
Harang has the same record... Arroyo's ERA is Higher... He has a better ERA over his last 5 starts than Cueto... BA against is .271 Harang's is .292 Arroyo's is .280... His K rate is higher than Bronson's. Bailey's first 19 starts don't even compare numbers wise to Owings. Owings hs produced alone 10 addtional runs with his bat not including the addtional at bats he helped other postion players get that achieved addtional runs. Yep. He sucks. Lucky he is more than a bat boy...Originally Posted by JayBruce32
I have said it before I am not a huge Owings fan but as long he is getting his job done I don't care, just like Homer last night not the greatest start but it could have been a lot worse but the thing that matters is we got the W on both days.
Why are we ALWAYS bashing our own players??
I think thats the point really. I mean our staff isnt full of aces and yet we wanna say a guy with a era of under 5 is not worthy of the 5 spot? He may not be that good but he gets the job done and a lot of teams would kill 4 his production.
Unless you have been a lifelong Twins, Braves, Red Sox, or other pitching titan team fan your entire life, then you should not be upset at all with Owings' performance. Watching Belisle, Fogg, and other pathetic excuses for major league pitchers go up and toe the rubber every fifth day makes me very thankful to have Micah Owings on the roster.
Owings ERA 4.87
National league average ERA 4.40 for starters
The dude isnt a world beater but he certainly has been a pretty good addition to this team. He's actually a pretty big addition and he can even afford to have a couple bad outings before I would replace him.
Actually, after yesterday's outing his ERA is down to 4.63. Even better.
"I have noticed even people who claim everything is predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it, look before they cross the road." Stephen Hawking
If the 5th starter in my rotation has a 4.63 ERA, I'm pretty darn happy.
C'mon, JB. Your point is proven to be wrong. Owings has pitched better than any starter on the REDS over their last 5 starts. Owings is the best starting pitcher on the team right now. In 4 of his last 5 starts, he's given up 2 runs or less.
Please don't bring this up again for the rest of the year. It's not worthy of a response anymore.
There should be a rule in REDSZONE, "If your point is proven to be wrong, you should admit it, and be forbidden to bring it up again for the rest of the season." But, next time Owings gets a loss or has a bad game, you'll be trying to post this again. Please try hard to refrain from doing so, as doing so doesn't give your point any more credence.
Last edited by Kingspoint; 06-29-2009 at 04:19 PM.
Only this post was strange.
Where's your "I was wrong" post?
I realize that, by contributing this post, I am about to contradict what I'll say, but...
This topic needs to die. The only thing worse than a bad topic is bumping the bad topic when the circumstances seem to support that action. Then the circumstances change, and the original post gets reinforced with more bumps.
So I guess what I'm saying is, are we gonna do this all year long with Micah Owings?:
Rounding third and heading for home...
True. In support of JayBruce32, Owings should not be doing as well as he is (4 of his last 5 games giving up 2 runs or fewer), but he's getting it done when it counts. That right there says that he's got a very good pitcher's mind, and that he's able to make the right pitches at the right time.
Can you read a boxscore?
4 of his last 5 starts he's given up 2 runs or less.
What do you want him to be?
That should seal it for any sane person.
a 4.63 ERA out of our 3 & 4 would be acceptable as well.
Owings is currently our 3rd best starting pitcher.
Arguing that he's not our #5 is really moot right now.
PEACE
-BLEEDS
I think that in a year or two, one of these guys - Frazier, Dorn, Valaika, Cumberland, Stubbs - will be ready to replace Dunn. They won't hit as many home runs as Dunn, but they should have similar OPS. - 757690, July 22, 2008
Alonso will be playing 1B for the REDS and batting 4th one year from today. - Kingspoint, July 9, 2009
Listen here...
If Dusty just takes the guy out after 100 Pitches, Everything will be fine... He is Lucky Dusty didn't leave gim in there after he hit that Batter last night... I didn't think Dusty should push him then... I am glad Danny didn't let that Runner in!
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