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    Re: Reds looking for right handed bat

    Quote Originally Posted by alloverjr View Post
    And which is why I would be looking for pitching for the next couple of years instead of a bat. Heck, if Alonso is going to ready by the end of next year I'd dangle Votto for a decent long term pitching solution.
    I don't know about that. The Reds will have good starting pitching prospects in Wood and Leake (some others that I can't think of). If Bailey continues to improve he could very well be a good 3rd starter. Then you'll have a rotation looking something like:

    Cueto
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    Re: Reds looking for right handed bat

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    By the best pitcher in the NL. It happens. Votto and EdE's presence are almost certainly enough to boost the offense. Right now, the rotation is a slumping Cueto, a terrible Arroyo, a poor Owings, a slumping/mediocre Harang (with no relief-duty excuse to fall back on), and Homer freakin' Bailey.

    That rotation's a recipe for a 5-17 July if there ever was one.
    If the Reds go 5-17 in July, I will change my name to chicrazy and become a huge Cubs fan.

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    Re: Reds looking for right handed bat

    It's the offense. But Dusty thinks EE needs another week or two. In fact, he got the night off Tuesday DURING his rehab stint.

    awe. some.

    A 1-2-3-4 of Dickerson, EE, Votto, BP is pretty good. even breaks up the LH's because we know how important that is. 5-6-7-8 could be Bruce, Nix/Gomes, Hernandez/Hanigan, Janish.

    That isn't a horrible offense. It isn't a horrible defense either.
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    Re: Reds looking for right handed bat

    Elijah Dukes has been optioned to Triple-A. If I were Walt, I would go after him. He's willing to take a walk, has big time power potential, and he just recently turned 25 years old.
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    Re: Reds looking for right handed bat

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Elijah Dukes has been optioned to Triple-A. If I were Walt, I would go after him. He's willing to take a walk, has big time power potential, and he just recently turned 25 years old.
    They sent Dukes to AAA to instead of cutting Kearns?


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    Re: Reds looking for right handed bat

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    By the best pitcher in the NL. It happens. Votto and EdE's presence are almost certainly enough to boost the offense. Right now, the rotation is a slumping Cueto, a terrible Arroyo, a poor Owings, a slumping/mediocre Harang (with no relief-duty excuse to fall back on), and Homer freakin' Bailey.
    Slumps happen, even for pitchers. Overreacting when one does is usually a sign of a badly run front office.

    Unless you think that Cueto's talent has suddenly deserted him, you don't trade for someone to fill his spot in the rotation. Ditto Harang. Owings is what Owings is -- a more than competent 5th starter. Bailey is a placeholder until Volquez gets right.

    I'm not saying ignore the starting pitching -- but I think the odds are a lot longer on finding a better starting pitcher than they already have than the odds are of finding a better bat at 3b, lf or ss than they already have.
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    Re: Reds looking for right handed bat

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    By the best pitcher in the NL. It happens. Votto and EdE's presence are almost certainly enough to boost the offense. Right now, the rotation is a slumping Cueto, a terrible Arroyo, a poor Owings, a slumping/mediocre Harang (with no relief-duty excuse to fall back on), and Homer freakin' Bailey.

    That rotation's a recipe for a 5-17 July if there ever was one.
    Oh gosh...I guess we ought to just release the entire starting rotation and start over again. Let's just forfeit the rest of the season because if they pitch for the Reds they must be junk.

    I mean, they all suck so bad and are awful pitchers...or at least that's what I've been hearing non-stop in your posts.

    It's tiresome. Really.

    The starting rotation has it's issues no doubt. It's not perfect, nor do I pretend that it is. But your constant harping on the subject misses the mark as to what the Reds priority problems are right now.
    Last edited by Ltlabner; 07-01-2009 at 01:54 PM.
    a super volcano of ridonkulous suckitude.

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    Re: Reds looking for right handed bat

    Quote Originally Posted by Ltlabner View Post
    Oh gosh...I guess we ought to just release the entire starting rotation and start over again. Let's just forfeit the rest of the season because if they pitch for the Reds they must be junk.

    I mean, they all suck so bad and are awful pitchers...or at least that's what I've been hearing non-stop in your posts.
    Agreed. FCB is treading slowly towards Aronchis territory.
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    Re: Reds looking for right handed bat

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Elijah Dukes has been optioned to Triple-A. If I were Walt, I would go after him. He's willing to take a walk, has big time power potential, and he just recently turned 25 years old.
    and don't forget he seems to have a bit of misogyny.
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    Re: Reds looking for right handed bat

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    Agreed. FCB is treading slowly towards Aronchis territory.
    Solid retort. I don't get it. A majority of the board rages on 1/9 of the starting lineup in virtually every thread, but my pointing out the obvious problems with this rotation have become tiresome (despite their unacknowledged truth).

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    Re: Reds looking for right handed bat

    I have to share FCB's concerns with the rotation. Harang is no longer reliable, Cueto has been giving up dingers again, Arroyo is in a funk and has carpal tunnel, Owings is wild as a goose, and Bailey is getting his final tryout for the Reds. Volquez may not pitch again this season, and if he does, will he be effective? The Reds suddenly seem to be more desperate for a league average arm than they are a bat right now, esp. since most of the problem with the O is getting the right people on the field consistently.

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    Re: Reds looking for right handed bat

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    A majority of the board rages on 1/9 of the starting lineup in virtually every thread, but my pointing out the obvious problems with this rotation have become tiresome (despite their unacknowledged truth).
    So your constant pounding on the staff is just your obtuse way of providing counter balance to your perception that a majority of the board rages on the linup?

    And no, you are not spouting the unacknowledged "truth".
    a super volcano of ridonkulous suckitude.

    I simply don't have access to a "cares about RBI" place in my psyche. There is a "mildly curious about OBI%" alcove just before the acid filled lake guarded by robot snipers with lasers which leads to the "cares about RBI" antechamber though. - Nate

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    Re: Reds looking for right handed bat

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    Solid retort. I don't get it. A majority of the board rages on 1/9 of the starting lineup in virtually every thread, but my pointing out the obvious problems with this rotation have become tiresome (despite their unacknowledged truth).
    Don't you see what you just did? You just lit the Willy T fuse.

    Nice work.

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    Re: Reds looking for right handed bat

    Reds starting rotation may have concerns ... so do 25 or so other teams around the league. The Reds are better of than most of them.
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    Re: Reds looking for right handed bat

    Aaron Harang is on pace to throw 200+ innings, has a 113 ERA+, and 21 BB/80 K ratio. He still looks like the same old reliable Aaron Harang to me.
    I miss Adam Dunn.


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