I don't know about that. The Reds will have good starting pitching prospects in Wood and Leake (some others that I can't think of). If Bailey continues to improve he could very well be a good 3rd starter. Then you'll have a rotation looking something like:Originally Posted by alloverjr
Cueto
Volquez
Bailey
Wood
?
If the Reds go 5-17 in July, I will change my name to chicrazy and become a huge Cubs fan.
It's the offense. But Dusty thinks EE needs another week or two. In fact, he got the night off Tuesday DURING his rehab stint.
awe. some.
A 1-2-3-4 of Dickerson, EE, Votto, BP is pretty good. even breaks up the LH's because we know how important that is. 5-6-7-8 could be Bruce, Nix/Gomes, Hernandez/Hanigan, Janish.
That isn't a horrible offense. It isn't a horrible defense either.
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Elijah Dukes has been optioned to Triple-A. If I were Walt, I would go after him. He's willing to take a walk, has big time power potential, and he just recently turned 25 years old.
They sent Dukes to AAA to instead of cutting Kearns?
Slumps happen, even for pitchers. Overreacting when one does is usually a sign of a badly run front office.
Unless you think that Cueto's talent has suddenly deserted him, you don't trade for someone to fill his spot in the rotation. Ditto Harang. Owings is what Owings is -- a more than competent 5th starter. Bailey is a placeholder until Volquez gets right.
I'm not saying ignore the starting pitching -- but I think the odds are a lot longer on finding a better starting pitcher than they already have than the odds are of finding a better bat at 3b, lf or ss than they already have.
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Oh gosh...I guess we ought to just release the entire starting rotation and start over again. Let's just forfeit the rest of the season because if they pitch for the Reds they must be junk.
I mean, they all suck so bad and are awful pitchers...or at least that's what I've been hearing non-stop in your posts.
It's tiresome. Really.
The starting rotation has it's issues no doubt. It's not perfect, nor do I pretend that it is. But your constant harping on the subject misses the mark as to what the Reds priority problems are right now.
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Agreed. FCB is treading slowly towards Aronchis territory.
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and don't forget he seems to have a bit of misogyny.
Solid retort. I don't get it. A majority of the board rages on 1/9 of the starting lineup in virtually every thread, but my pointing out the obvious problems with this rotation have become tiresome (despite their unacknowledged truth).
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I have to share FCB's concerns with the rotation. Harang is no longer reliable, Cueto has been giving up dingers again, Arroyo is in a funk and has carpal tunnel, Owings is wild as a goose, and Bailey is getting his final tryout for the Reds. Volquez may not pitch again this season, and if he does, will he be effective? The Reds suddenly seem to be more desperate for a league average arm than they are a bat right now, esp. since most of the problem with the O is getting the right people on the field consistently.
So your constant pounding on the staff is just your obtuse way of providing counter balance to your perception that a majority of the board rages on the linup?
And no, you are not spouting the unacknowledged "truth".
Don't you see what you just did? You just lit the Willy T fuse.
Nice work.
Reds starting rotation may have concerns ... so do 25 or so other teams around the league. The Reds are better of than most of them.
Aaron Harang is on pace to throw 200+ innings, has a 113 ERA+, and 21 BB/80 K ratio. He still looks like the same old reliable Aaron Harang to me.
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