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    Yunel Escobar available

    According to Dave O'Brien of the Atlanta-Journal Constitution, Yunel Escobar (and Javier Vasquez) are very serious candidates to be traded by the Braves.

    O'Brien says Escobar is "a legit possibility to be moved."

    This was just posted on MLB Trade Rumors a short time ago.

    Folks... here is Cincinnati's answer to their shortstop woes, both short & long term IMHO.
    "No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda

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    Re: Yunel Escobar available

    A young, talented, cheap shortstop becomes available on a team that's in rebuilding mode.

    You have to ask yourself why the Braves have interest in moving Escobar to a new location.

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    Re: Yunel Escobar available

    Quote Originally Posted by jmcclain19 View Post
    A young, talented, cheap shortstop becomes available on a team that's in rebuilding mode.

    You have to ask yourself why the Braves have interest in moving Escobar to a new location.
    The guy is a clown. Very immature which reveals itself in many different ways. But as good as he is you have to take a chance on him. They reportedly want a good bat for him. EE? I'd just about gaurantee they would consider that and stick EE in LF immediately.
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    Re: Yunel Escobar available

    Quote Originally Posted by jmcclain19 View Post
    A young, talented, cheap shortstop becomes available on a team that's in rebuilding mode.

    You have to ask yourself why the Braves have interest in moving Escobar to a new location.
    This was brought up in another thread (before this news, but rather when his name simply was talked about). I have heard several times he's in the Braves' doghouse for 'attitude' issues. I don't know for sure if this is the case, but while I'm a guy that does care about character, I have not heard enough bad things about him to do anything but take it with a grain of salt.

    Offensively he's a clear upgrade and defensively he gets the job done. He's cheap and has some years left. I can't think of too many reasons why not to do it.
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    Re: Yunel Escobar available

    I'd take them both. The Reds could certainly find room for Vasqluez in the rotation.

    Yunel's the guy, though, that answers a big question and could be foundational. There's not going to be a comparable shortstop available this year.

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    Re: Yunel Escobar available

    Bobby Cox doesn't give up on quality players, there has to be something to him or his game that is pushing him towards the door.

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    Re: Yunel Escobar available

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Bobby Cox doesn't give up on quality players, there has to be something to him or his game that is pushing him towards the door.
    It's been well chronicled that he is very immature. He complains, he sulks, and regarding his play it seems he'd rather be pretty 1st then good. He sounds a little bit like a more selfish and immature Felipe.

    Here's a piece from the SD a few days back.

    Cox won’t say when Escobar will return to lineup
    By DAVID O'BRIEN

    The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

    Saturday, June 27, 2009

    Shortstop Yunel Escobar was out of the lineup for the second consecutive game Saturday, and the official reason given by the Braves was a strained hip flexor that has bothered him off and on for the past month.

    While no one doubted that Escobar was hurt, the consensus in and around the Braves clubhouse was that he would have played Saturday if it were up to him.

    It was not up to him.

    Manager Bobby Cox declined to comment, but the Braves are frustrated by Escobar’s immature behavior. Most recently, he mouthed an expletive toward the scorekeeper in the press box after being charged with an error in Thursday’s loss to the Yankees, an incident caught by the TV cameras on the game broadcast.

    Escobar, 26, pouted in the aftermath of that play and appeared uninterested for the rest of the inning. Bench coach Chino Cadahia laid into him between innings, letting him know that the behavior was unacceptable.

    Escobar played the rest of the game, but hasn’t played since. Cox wouldn’t say when he will be back in the lineup.

    The Braves are unquestionably a lesser team without Escobar, a .300 career hitter with 88 extra-base hits (22 homers) and a .367 on-base percentage in 292 games since reaching the majors in June 2007.

    He has batted .292 with seven homers and 39 RBIs this season, including .307 with 12 RBIs in his past 17 games. But he also has had some costly lapses in concentration and five errors in that 17-game span.
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    Re: Yunel Escobar available

    I'm def. leary on why the Braves would punt a solid, young SS like this. Attitude isn't reason enough, imo.

    That said, the Reds have to be salivating, no?


    Cozart is the only SS in the minors for the Reds...how far away is he from be ML ready?

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    Re: Yunel Escobar available

    I'd give Maloney + Stubbs. I would also throw in the deal that Mario-Rijo would register at braveszone.com
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    No better manager to get the best out of a player than Dusty....
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    Re: Yunel Escobar available

    Quote Originally Posted by sonny View Post
    I'd give Maloney + Stubbs. I would also throw in the deal that Mario-Rijo would register at braveszone.com
    I'm not sure the Braves would be looking for a CFer with their new guy and with Schafer really close too.....
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    Re: Yunel Escobar available

    Quote Originally Posted by sonny View Post
    I'd give Maloney + Stubbs. I would also throw in the deal that Mario-Rijo would register at braveszone.com
    Why, Are my deals that bad that you'd figure it have to be good for the reds?
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    Re: Yunel Escobar available

    Quote Originally Posted by sonny View Post
    I'd give Maloney + Stubbs. I would also throw in the deal that Mario-Rijo would register at braveszone.com
    They just got a CF from the Pirates and they have the guy that couldn't cut it this year and he's IIRC younger than Stubbs.

    Getting a SS from outside your organization is perhaps the hardest thing to do in MLB, so you have to pay high 90% of the time or take something with a question mark looming over the horizon.

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    And if the Braves are trying to get a bat, well, that takes the Reds out of the running.
    "This isnít stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner

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    Re: Yunel Escobar available

    Quote Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo View Post
    Why, Are my deals that bad that you'd figure it have to be good for the reds?
    Oh quite the contrary, You would bring a wealth of insight to their discussions!

    You are the cornerstone peice to this deal!
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