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    Re: Blue Jays are also taking offers for outfielder Alex Rios & third baseman Scott R

    Quote Originally Posted by Austin Kearns View Post
    That would be true if he had no track record to fall back on, and if he were 33.

    However, he does, and he isn't.
    I have to disagree with you here. I think that no team will give up value for Rios with that contract.
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    Re: Blue Jays are also taking offers for outfielder Alex Rios & third baseman Scott R

    Quote Originally Posted by Will M View Post
    I have to disagree with you here. I think that no team will give up value for Rios with that contract.
    You really don't think there's one team that prefer to hang their hat on his previous seasons as an above average bat + elite defender, rather than a half season of struggles?

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    Re: Blue Jays are also taking offers for outfielder Alex Rios & third baseman Scott R

    I think there are plenty of teams that wish they had Rios for that contract...
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    Re: Blue Jays are also taking offers for outfielder Alex Rios & third baseman Scott R

    I don't. The only team I can think of that needs a guy like Rios, considering his baggage (YouTube video with he and the kid, salary, et al.) and can afford him is the Giants. Is there anyone I'm missing?
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    Re: Blue Jays are also taking offers for outfielder Alex Rios & third baseman Scott R

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    I don't. The only team I can think of that needs a guy like Rios, considering his baggage (YouTube video with he and the kid, salary, et al.) and can afford him is the Giants. Is there anyone I'm missing?
    I think the Mets would be interested.
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    Re: Blue Jays are also taking offers for outfielder Alex Rios & third baseman Scott R

    In the last ten seasons starting 1999 Rolen has managed to play in 140 or more games only 5 times, including 4 seasons of less than 120 games. He is 34 years old with a history of injury problems. And he is set to make $12 mil in 2010.
    No thanks.

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    Re: Blue Jays are also taking offers for outfielder Alex Rios & third baseman Scott R

    Quote Originally Posted by Degenerate39 View Post
    The Jays would have to pay most of Rios salary if the Reds went after him.
    In that case, I would give up a fair amount for him.

    But the Jays won't do that- especially if they are trading Halladay. They already ate Ryan's contract. A big part of the logic behind moving Rios is to free up money to possibly sign Halladay. I'm pretty sure they're not going to take down a lot of Rios' contract if they end up moving him.
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    Re: Blue Jays are also taking offers for outfielder Alex Rios & third baseman Scott R

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric_the_Red View Post
    In the last ten seasons starting 1999 Rolen has managed to play in 140 or more games only 5 times, including 4 seasons of less than 120 games. He is 34 years old with a history of injury problems. And he is set to make $12 mil in 2010.
    No thanks.
    Since Edwin has been handed the full time starting job he will play over 140 games just once, last year.

    I do Edwin + prospect for Rolen. I have given up on Edwin. I don't think his glove will ever play at 3b and don't think his bat will play to many projections. He is frustrating to watch and IMO is very inconsistent at the plate. For a team that needs a RH bat to produce, Edwin isn't doing the job. An addition of Rolen would sure of the defense and make the lineup better this year. IMO 130 games of Rolen > than whatever Edwin can give you.

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    Re: Blue Jays are also taking offers for outfielder Alex Rios & third baseman Scott R

    Rolen would be a good move dependent upon $$$ and prospects. But in a vacuum he makes the 2009 team better.

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    Re: Blue Jays are also taking offers for outfielder Alex Rios & third baseman Scott R

    I love Rolen. Absolutely hate Alex Rios. I've stated many times that I want no part of Alex Rios for $60+ million.

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    Re: Blue Jays are also taking offers for outfielder Alex Rios & third baseman Scott R

    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    I think the Mets would be interested.
    Yep, Mets, too. Though Ryan Church's OPS+ is better than Rios and his D is almost as good.

    Kinda hard to get teams in a bidding war if only to find the player you're dealing valuable enough to bid on at all.
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    Re: Blue Jays are also taking offers for outfielder Alex Rios & third baseman Scott R

    I'd be behind the acquisition of Rolen. Have to admit that some of it is sentimental -- he's more or less a hometown guy who grew up rooting for the Reds. Clearly age and health history are significant risks. But I think the potential reward, given how he's playing now, is quite high. He fits right where they need the most help.
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    Re: Blue Jays are also taking offers for outfielder Alex Rios & third baseman Scott R

    It depends on the prospect, of course, but this is a no-brainer. You do it and run before the Jays come to their senses. Is it a risk? I'd say it's minor. Even if he's hurt for the duration of his contract, it's only one more season. And it's not as if Edwin is cheap next season. Or anywhere near the player Rolen is.

    If Rolen gives you anything close to 200 Scott Rolen games at third base and in the cleanup spot over the next two seasons, this goes down as an all-time steal. Heck, even if he just gives you enough to push you into the playoffs this season--and he's a good enough player to do that--it's a steal. Regardless of what happens in 2010.

    This would be a great move. Which is why I don't believe it will happen. If something seems too good to be true ...

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    Re: Blue Jays are also taking offers for outfielder Alex Rios & third baseman Scott R

    I'd probably get Rolen, if only because I love his glove and baseball IQ. His mind seems like the type to play well in his late 30's. Unfortunaty, his body seems to be the type to struggle soon after 33. Still, a good baseball player and a gamer-- if Cincinnati could find the cash, I'd be fine with it.
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    Re: Blue Jays are also taking offers for outfielder Alex Rios & third baseman Scott R

    Hmmm....Rotoworld doesn't see anything intriguing here, so maybe it is just a day off.

    Scott Rolen is out of the lineup for Thursday's game against the Rays.

    With the early start time, Rolen takes a seat. Jose Bautista will fill in and lead off against David Price.


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