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    Re: UFC 100: Is Brock Lesner bad for UFC?

    Lesnar has a 7" reach on Fedor, which is pretty significant, especially with about 40 lbs added. Whoever is going to take out Lesnar will need some KO power and a good reach. This way they can try to avoid the take down, otherwise they have to come in too close.

    But IMO the only way to beat Brock is to hope he makes a wide open mistake and go for the submission, ala Mir/Brock 1st fight. Problem is, the more fights he logs in, the better he gets.

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    Re: UFC 100: Is Brock Lesner bad for UFC?

    I'll readily admit that I'm a bit of a neophyte when it comes to MMA so maybe my comment about Anderson Silva and Lesnar was crazy. I've watched a bunch of Silva's fights however, and I just can't see Lesnar ever touching the guy if they actually got into the ring. I think Silva would end up hitting him with some sort of flying kick in the temple and knock his ass out.
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    Re: UFC 100: Is Brock Lesner bad for UFC?

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    IMO, Fedor would handle Lesnar. The vast range of skills and dominance that Fedor can shower upon an opponent is too much to handle, even for a guy like Lesnar. Carwin's also a legitimate threat, and a healthy Nog could put up a fight too (Nog was coming off a staph infection in his loss to Mir).

    That much being said, until the UFC lands Fedor, it might be awhile until Lesnar is dethroned, though I think part of that has to do with there not being too many heavyweight challengers in the UFC at the moment.

    A world class striker with excellent take-down defense could have some serious success picking apart Lesnar, perhaps a guy such as Cro Cop (check that, an aggressive Cro Cop, not a defensive Cro Cop). But even then, Cro Cop is giving up a ton of size so it'd be a tough match albeit an interesting one, IMO (FWIW, I've long thought that Cro Cop should just cut the weight and head to LHW).
    Yes on Fedor handling Lesnar. Brock could be unbeatable in time, but it wasn't that long ago after all that he was caught by Mir in the kneebar. Fedor's been doing that to guys bigger than him for a decade. Fedor's made a career out of being patient and finding a way to win. Lesnar is a once-in-a-blue-moon type of athlete and genetic freak, no doubt about that. And as he tightens up his game, he could be the "next" Fedor.

    On Mirko, I've agreed on the move to 205 for a while, however, that last fight he had against Al-Turk, he bulked up fairly substantially for that fight and LOOKED like a heavyweight for the first time. And looked good in the fight.

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    Re: UFC 100: Is Brock Lesner bad for UFC?

    Quote Originally Posted by WMR View Post
    I'll readily admit that I'm a bit of a neophyte when it comes to MMA so maybe my comment about Anderson Silva and Lesnar was crazy. I've watched a bunch of Silva's fights however, and I just can't see Lesnar ever touching the guy if they actually got into the ring. I think Silva would end up hitting him with some sort of flying kick in the temple and knock his ass out.
    I am also a neophyte but I'm watching the Silva/Franklin 2nd title fight (from Cincy) replayed on Spike.

    I think Franklin is a total bad-ass. But it's only the first round (and IIRC Silva wins the fight) and Silva doesn't even look winded. He's dancing around dodging punches and I'm pretty sure he's not even sweating yet. Franklin got rocked and looks like a zombie.
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    Re: UFC 100: Is Brock Lesner bad for UFC?

    Wish I would have seen this thread earlier. I think Lesnar is great for the UFC and MMA in general. Two days after the fight and it is still getting plenty of talk on ESPN something we havent really seen before. The sport has been looking for a face since Rampage ko'd Chuck and I think they have found it. Going after Bud Light was dumb but that was the only problem I had with Lesnar.

    I think Lesnar could beat Fedor right now. I'm not saying I would put money on it but I think Lesnar would have a pretty good chance. I never felt like Fedor was in trouble with Arvloski and in no way thought he was getting murdered, but I think Lesnar could give Fedor some major trouble and I think we will see that fight fairly soon.

    As for Cro Cop I'm not sure he has the appeal he once did and I wasnt impressed with him at all against Al-Turk. Guess we will get another look at UFC 103.

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    Re: UFC 100: Is Brock Lesner bad for UFC?

    UFC is being discussed about on a website dedicated to mainly baseball.

    Brock Lesnar, therefore, is GOOD for UFC .

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    Re: UFC 100: Is Brock Lesner bad for UFC?

    Quote Originally Posted by cincrazy View Post
    UFC is being discussed about on a website dedicated to mainly baseball.

    Brock Lesnar, therefore, is GOOD for UFC .
    Yeah. This discussion is the first thing that's ever interested me about MMA. Even looked up some of these guys in Wikipedia.

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    Re: UFC 100: Is Brock Lesner bad for UFC?

    Quote Originally Posted by cincrazy View Post
    UFC is being discussed about on a website dedicated to mainly baseball.

    Brock Lesnar, therefore, is GOOD for UFC .
    You make a good point CC but this isn't your average Baseball board and we have had other threads discussing MMA before this one. But I do agree with your main point Lesnar is good for the UFC.
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