Could Heisey become a Cincinnati version of Jason Werth? Is there enough talent in the tank to get him to that level?
I agree with Doug Willie T starts 2010 and bats leadoff. I wouldnt trade either
"Now that's a real shame when folks be throwin' away a perfectly good white boy like that."
Stubbs/Heisey along with Valaika/Frazier, Francisco/Soto and a few of the young pitchers are the depth areas that this team needs to draw on to improve the major league team.
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Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS
If Stubbs is truely a great defender, Heisey can hit, and Dickerson can do what he is doing, they may not have an outfield with a whole lot of pop, but they will have an outfield that gets on base and will catch anything in sight. If the Reds are able to be a plus bat at 3b I would be quite content running 2 of Dickerson, Stubbs, and Heisey out there every day.
IMO too much is made over whether a player has a powerful enough bat for a certain position. Especially in GABP, if a player has some pop in his bat he will hit 20+ HRs a season. IMO Heisey should have enough pop to play LF.
Two rookies (plus the addition of Frazier, wherever and whenever he sticks in the Queen City) in the OF? Seems like a lot to ask. I don't see them breaking in two or three OFers with no experience. (Though I think both are good enough to be positives on the team.)
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I do not think Taveras will be the starting CF in 2010. I have confidence in the Reds' leadership to admit their mistake eventually. By this time next year, WT will either be on the bench or with another team. I hope they don't let me down.
Stubbs is Stillwell. Heisey is looking more and more like Larkin. Heisey's performance this year has caused me to change my perspective. Keep Heisey, trade Stubbs.
Marlins some how continuously play all these young cheap guys. Leadership can be bought for cheap.
If one must be dealt my pick would be Stubbs to go. That said he's probably the only true CF we have so keeping them both doesn't bother me either but I do think trading him now would be wise in the long run, assuming we get back something of substance.
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I think I favor an option that's not listed. Keep both and let them compete for CF. And go from there.
Keep both, move Frazier to 3B, if you have to trade anyone, look at Alonso and EE. Depth is never a bad thing, I would rather have 12 guys on a team capable of starting and pushing each other than 8 starters and 4 you hope don't play enough to hurt the team.
Just curiously, what is the history of players who have done what Heisey has done? That is, be a mid round draft pick, play decently if uninspired for two or three seasons, then turn it on and dominate AA and/or AAA pitching.
Who has done that before, or something like that before, and how did they end up playing in the majors?
I am not looking for any one answer, or trying to make a point. I just have no idea and think it's a good question to ask.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge." -- Albert Einstein
Shane Victorino - 6th round pick. Posted a .748 OPS in AA, .759 overall in the minors.
Nate McLouth - 25th round pick. .765 OPS in AAA, .794 in minors.
Mike Lowell - 20th round pick. .651 OPS in Rookie Ball, .768 OPS in Low-A.
I'm sure there are more. I'm just thinking of guys off the top of my head.
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