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    Re: If you were GM what would you do in the next 10 days??

    Quote Originally Posted by BigJohn View Post
    Send Micah Owings to Louisville and tell them he is the every day left fielder and see if he hits.
    Great idea. Looks like we have 5 starting pitchers even without Owings. It also looks like we have way too little offense with our outfield the way it is now. What could this possibly hurt? Seems like there was a guy named Musial who came through the minors as a pitcher, but had a career as an outfielder. I wonder whatever happened to him??
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    Re: If you were GM what would you do in the next 10 days??

    Id trade, one of Juan Francisco, Cody Puckett, or similar middle tier prospects packaged for Mark Teahen of the Royals. I would not trade, Frazier, Heisy, Stubbs, Wood, Cozart or Alonso or any of our top tier prospects. However, I would trade Dickerson and any of our younger relievers not named Masset . Teahen can play 3rd base, 1st base, Right and Left field. And is a very good hitter. He will only improve his numbers playing in GABP and against the national league. Here are his stats this year.

    Mark Teahen
    AB's 325, BA 295, R 43, H 96, HR 9, RBI 32, OBP 353, OPS 800.

    Im pretty sure Teahen is under contract for the next few years, is only 28 and getting better every year. He looks to make 2.5 mill this year and seems to me like a much better younger, stronger, faster Mark Derosa.

    Thats who I'd go after.

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    I'd be prepared to move anyone not named Votto, Phillips, Cueto or Volquez in return for promising young talent. I think the ship has sailed on helping this team out this season, which is unfortunate, but maybe they can add some good pieces for next season through smart deals. This year seems wide-open among the contenders, so the value on guys like Harang, Arroyo, Weathers, Cordero -- and maybe even EE -- could be much higher than normal.
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    If I was the Reds GM, I would consider resigning.
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    Re: If I were the GM...

    Quote Originally Posted by travisgrimes View Post
    ... Phil Hughes doesn't seem to handle the New York pressure. Word is Cashman has no place for Hughes and is growing tired of his inconsistancy.

    Phil Hughes hasn't given up a run since June 10. Thats 13 appearances without giving up a run. Believe me Cashman is thrilled with Hughes and he certainly is not going to give him up so he can take on Harang's contract.

    Nor are the Mets going to pick up 1/2 (or any fraction) of Bronson's contract. Not unless Bernie Madoff returns a few hundred million of Wilpon's money.
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    The more I think about it, anyone who calls Phil Hughes "inconsistent" in light of his recent success is not paying attention, and I wouldn't believe the roumors coming from his uncle.

    In his last 15 relief appearances, Hughes has a 0.84 ERA, surrendering 11 hits in 21 1/3 innings, with a superb strikeout-to-walk ratio of 27-5. Cashman wouldn't trade this kid for Santana last year, the kid is starting to make Cashman looked good, and you're telling us that Cashman is now going to give him up for Aaron Harang? Get serious.

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    I would only trade for a SS that is very close to mlb ready and has star potential.Any trading chips should be held on to if this cannot be done.They're trading chips because they are valuable players and I want those guys on my team unless they are being sent elsewhere to help solve our biggest question mark in 2010.

    If a SS can be had by trade then I spend every cent this coming off season on the best outfielder I can find.If he's not perfect I get him anyways.Someone young would be great but I'd settle for a vet as long as he isn't over 35.

    I let every other guy that has a expiring contract or a 2010 option walk.We have a good enough farm system that we don't need to sign 2 or 3 marginal vets to 2 and 3 million dollar contract just so they can be out preformed by our younger and less expensive guys.

    Last but not least I'd get rid of Baker.Sweet would be my man along with the rest of his staff.I still don't know a ton about the guy but I've now herd enough good things that I'd give him a chance.I'd tell him that he needs to play the best players every night and that if someone signed to a contract stinks and he wants them gone it will be done.

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    Re: If you were GM what would you do in the next 10 days??

    I would be realistic and start looking at ways to clear some salary room for next year. Chances are, we're not getting big name players out of most deals, because of the salary involved.

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    Re: If you were GM what would you do in the next 10 days??

    Quote Originally Posted by LouisvilleCARDS View Post
    I would be realistic and start looking at ways to clear some salary room for next year. Chances are, we're not getting big name players out of most deals, because of the salary involved.
    Cellar-dwelling certainly doesn't draw fans to the ballpark, at least not in Cincinnati. They would be wise to dump one of the two $11M salaries of Harang or Arroyo.

    And, dump Hairston and Taveras, too, hoping someone picks up their contracts. They'd probably both be picked up as both of them are hitting better in July.

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    Re: If you were GM what would you do in the next 10 days??

    Let's say I'm not G.M..

    Let's say I'm Walt.

    Rule #1. I can't fire Dusty because Castellini won't let me.

    Rule #2. I can't DFA Taveras because Dusty won't let Castellini let me.

    Rule #3. If Castellini tells me that I can't do one more thing, I tell him to go screw himself, such as telling me I can't DFA Hairston.

    So, now, what do I do?

    I try to improve the Defense at SS and 3rd Base.

    Gonzalez is back shortly, so SS is taken care of.

    Because Gonzalez will be poor Offensively, I make a blockbuster trade for a 3rd Baseman by trading EE and Arroyo/Harang for one player.

    That player would be:

    Gordon Beckham from the White Sox, as I give them Harang, EE, and Chris Heisey for Beckham.

    Chicago would do this because it helps them not only win this season but gives them a very good Offensive 3rd Baseman for the next 3 seasons in EE, a very good prospect in Heisey, and a decent starting pitcher in Harang with renewed life in the American League, where he doesn't have to hit. EE could also play less defense in the American League. DeWayne Wise doesn't cut it in Centerfield for the White Sox. If they want Stubbs instead of Heisey, they can have him instead. The White Sox starting staff is heavy-loaded with left-handers. Their #1, #2, and #4 starters are Left-Handed. Harang would fit right in there and break that up.

    To make the deal even sweeter for the REDS, I'd try to get Jermaine Dye at the same time for say a David Weathers and a minor league player.

    This would be a win-win for both sides.


    Plan B: A straight up EE for Rolen trade for the defensive improvement alone. I'll take an infield of Rolen-Gonzalez-Phillips-Votto for the rest of this year to play defense behind our pitchers with Hanigan at Catcher. If we had Bruce, we'd be set.
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    Re: If you were GM what would you do in the next 10 days??

    Quote Originally Posted by Kingspoint View Post
    Let's say I'm not G.M..

    Let's say I'm Walt.

    Rule #1. I can't fire Dusty because Castellini won't let me.

    Rule #2. I can't DFA Taveras because Dusty won't let Castellini let me.

    Rule #3. If Castellini tells me that I can't do one more thing, I tell him to go screw himself, such as telling me I can't DFA Hairston.

    So, now, what do I do?

    I try to improve the Defense at SS and 3rd Base.

    Gonzalez is back shortly, so SS is taken care of.

    Because Gonzalez will be poor Offensively, I make a blockbuster trade for a 3rd Baseman by trading EE and Arroyo/Harang for one player.

    That player would be:

    Gordon Beckham from the White Sox, as I give them Harang, EE, and Chris Heisey for Beckham.

    Chicago would do this because it helps them not only win this season but gives them a very good Offensive 3rd Baseman for the next 3 seasons in EE, a very good prospect in Heisey, and a decent starting pitcher in Harang with renewed life in the American League, where he doesn't have to hit. EE could also play less defense in the American League. DeWayne Wise doesn't cut it in Centerfield for the White Sox. If they want Stubbs instead of Heisey, they can have him instead. The White Sox starting staff is heavy-loaded with left-handers. Their #1, #2, and #4 starters are Left-Handed. Harang would fit right in there and break that up.

    To make the deal even sweeter for the REDS, I'd try to get Jermaine Dye at the same time for say a David Weathers and a minor league player.

    This would be a win-win for both sides.


    Plan B: A straight up EE for Rolen trade for the defensive improvement alone. I'll take an infield of Rolen-Gonzalez-Phillips-Votto for the rest of this year to play defense behind our pitchers with Hanigan at Catcher. If we had Bruce, we'd be set.
    I can't see the ChiSox adding $16+mill in payroll and loosing there #1 prospect. However, I wish this would be true.

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    Re: If you were GM what would you do in the next 10 days??

    I would be looking at my 401k and SS.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by travisgrimes View Post
    The Reds are clearly not going to contend for anything this season, HOWEVER, that does not mean you sell solid veterans for minor leaguers 2-3 years away. If I were to deal the likes of Harang, Arroyo, Cordero, etc. I would want major league ready guys to step in. So I looked at some deal I hadn't thought about before and actually it looked good.

    1. Cincinnati Reds trade SP Aaron Harang to the New York Yankees for SP Phil Hughes, C Jesus Montero and a PTBNL. WHY? The Yankees are desperate for a SP and Phil Hughes doesn't seem to handle the New York pressure. Word is Cashman has no place for Hughes and is growing tired of his inconsistancy. Of course most of you know the Reds are already talking to Yankees about a deal similar to this one (via my source).

    2. Cincinnati Reds trade CL Francisco Cordero and RP Arthur Rhodes to the Los Angeles Dodgers for CF Matt Kemp, SS Devaris Gordon and a PTBNL. WHY? Really the two Dodger weaknesses are the bullpen and back of the rotation. Here they get a great closer and a shut down lefty specialist who can get out righties as well. The Reds get their CF for now and the future and a very high ceiling guy at SS. This trade is possible because of Juan Pierre's good play and the Dodgers depth at CF in the minor leagues.

    3. Cincinnati Reds trade SP Bronson Arroyo and SS Jerry Hairston Jr. to the New York Mets for SP Jonathan Niese and 1B/OF Nick Evans. (Reds pick up half of Arroyo's contract). WHY? The Mets really need two things: A SP and a veteran SS, they get both here and at half the price. The Reds receive a minor league lefty SP and a future utility man in Nick Evans.
    While these are some great trade ideas.....they are very lopsided on everyone of the deals.....Philip Hughes is dominating right now and Harang is doing the exact opposite....no way the Yankees would do anything close to that....The Dodgers would be absolutely foolish to do any such deal....There not getting rid of Kemp and a prospect shortstop for some 40yr. old lefty that will be out of the league in a few years and a closer thats getting overpaid...Very few would even want jerry hairston if any and especially not the Mets...Every Redszoner would approve most of the deals but the problem is the Teams Involved would not hah

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    Re: If you were GM what would you do in the next 10 days??

    Move Cordero for a big bat on the left side of the infield and a promising minor league starter. If it's a 3rd Baseman, move EE to left.

    Keep Rhodes, and let Masset and/or Burton start developing into our closer(s).

    Move Weathers, Tavares, and Hairston. JHJ should not be an everyday player anyway, and we've got Sutton, Rosales, Janish, Richar, etc. to fill the utility roles that is all JHJ should be used for anyway.

    If we drop behind the Pirates, fire Dusty and get Rick Sweet in. As someone mentioned earlier, there's at least the possibility of a Rockies-like hot streak after a managerial change.
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    If you were GM what would you do in the next 10 days??
    Easy. Commit hari kari.
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