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    Re: Would you trade Chris Heisey for....

    I would not trade EE straight up for Beckham

    he has little power, little speed and horrible D

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    Re: Would you trade Chris Heisey for....

    FWIW, from BA's chat today:

    mark (il): do you think Gordon Beckham will stick at 3B or be moved to SS or 2B next yr?


    Matthew Eddy: People tend to run out of glowing adjectives to describe Beckham, but few of those admirers think he's a shortstop long-term. Second or third seem like equally likely destinations.
    http://www.baseballamerica.com/today...09/268714.html
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    if Hanley can play SS Beckham could do it for at least a few years.
    Last edited by GIDP; 08-17-2009 at 03:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GIDP View Post
    if Hanley can play SS Beckham could do it for at least a few years.
    Just becuase Hanley can play SS doesn't mean he should be playing SS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GIDP View Post
    if Hanley can play SS Beckham could do it for at least a few years.
    Of course the question begs, would he suck at SS defensively like Hanley did for several years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    Just becuase Hanley can play SS doesn't mean he should be playing SS.
    Yea but he hits well enough that it doesn't destroy his value. Same could be said for Gordan who probably is a better fielder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GIDP View Post
    Yea but he hits well enough that it doesn't destroy his value. Same could be said for Gordan who probably is a better fielder.
    Doesn't destroy it, but certainly hurts it.

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    Does it hurt it so much that they are better off trying to find a new SS though and moving Hanley. He isnt the ideal fit at SS but moving him to say 3rd or RF or even CF and trying to find that SS to replace him might not be worth it. Hanley is probably average much defending SS and if hes below average its not that much over the last couple years. Moving him off SS isnt that big of a deal right now. Same with Beckham. If he can hit well enough and play SS to average level why worry about finding the above average lesser hitting SS. My point is kinda being if hes not brutal why open up the new hole?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GIDP View Post
    Does it hurt it so much that they are better off trying to find a new SS though and moving Hanley. He isnt the ideal fit at SS but moving him to say 3rd or RF or even CF and trying to find that SS to replace him might not be worth it. Hanley is probably average much defending SS and if hes below average its not that much over the last couple years. Moving him off SS isnt that big of a deal right now. Same with Beckham. If he can hit well enough and play SS to average level why worry about finding the above average lesser hitting SS. My point is kinda being if hes not brutal why open up the new hole?
    Beckham doesn't hit like Hanley. Beckham isn't as good at SS right now as Hanley is. Hanley has improved his defense since coming up. However doesn't moving Beckham off of 3B open up a new hole too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Beckham doesn't hit like Hanley. Beckham isn't as good at SS right now as Hanley is. Hanley has improved his defense since coming up. However doesn't moving Beckham off of 3B open up a new hole too?
    Yea I'm not saying I would move him, im just saying if Hanley can stick there so could Beckham. Hanley has improved a lot for sure but I think Beckham could play better SS if given the reps Hanley has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GIDP View Post
    Yea I'm not saying I would move him, im just saying if Hanley can stick there so could Beckham. Hanley has improved a lot for sure but I think Beckham could play better SS if given the reps Hanley has.
    Isn't Alexi Ramirez a pretty good SS in his own right?

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    .306/.380/.480/.861/120 OPS+

    I can't believe this thread is still alive. The Reds would struggle to put together any minor league package that would entice the Sox to part with Beckham. I'll be surprised if any current Reds prospect ever puts up a line like that over 64 games. Zach Cozart? Really?

    Drafting Alonso over Beckham was a major mistake. My guess is we're going to spend the offseason trying to turn Alonso into a guy like Beckham -- an impact player who can play SS in the bigs. And I doubt we'll have any luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    Isn't Alexi Ramirez a pretty good SS in his own right?
    Hes similar to Hanley most likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osuceltic View Post
    .306/.380/.480/.861/120 OPS+

    I can't believe this thread is still alive. The Reds would struggle to put together any minor league package that would entice the Sox to part with Beckham. I'll be surprised if any current Reds prospect ever puts up a line like that over 64 games. Zach Cozart? Really?

    Drafting Alonso over Beckham was a major mistake. My guess is we're going to spend the offseason trying to turn Alonso into a guy like Beckham -- an impact player who can play SS in the bigs. And I doubt we'll have any luck.
    Gordon Beckham is NOT a guy who can play SS in the bigs. I have no clue where the idea came from that he is able to do it, but well, no one really seems to believe it but Reds fans who wish they had a shortstop at the major league level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Gordon Beckham is NOT a guy who can play SS in the bigs. I have no clue where the idea came from that he is able to do it, but well, no one really seems to believe it but Reds fans who wish they had a shortstop at the major league level.
    We've seen Jerry Hairston Jr. and Jeff Keppinger play the position for long stretches over the last two years and still have no answer heading into next season. I'd take my chances with Beckham there and, if dissatisfied with his performance, at least we'd be buying time to find another solution.

    Then, we could move Beckham to another position where he would continue to kick ass.


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