I don't know that Halladay wouldn't accept a trade to the Reds, sure its been a mediocre team this year, but in his FA year he'll be pitching in a mediocre division where he could be a real difference maker.
I don't know that Halladay wouldn't accept a trade to the Reds, sure its been a mediocre team this year, but in his FA year he'll be pitching in a mediocre division where he could be a real difference maker.
Hey, this organizatiln will blow a lot of smoke, but I want to see some "smart results". By that I mean, in the very remote chance they do acquire Halladay. I want the acquisiton leveraged to full advantage.
1) I do not want RH as a 2 month rental. if he were to be acquired for several very valuable young players,, they would have to be ready to insure that he will be around for another 2-3 years minimum or I want not part of the deal.
2) I want a RH-type deal to be a starting point and part of a comprehensive 3-5 year plan, not the be all and end all. If you're gonna be willing to bring in a star player like RH, be willing to surround him with other quality parts. Don't be like it was with Griffey or even Cordero - make the big splash then sit back on your laurels and dislocate your shoulder patting yourself on the back.
If they're going to make a deal for RH, I'm fully behind it - I'll do frickin' cartwheels!, but if they dio, they better be ready to go the whole nine yards. That means shedding contracts like Harang and Arroyo IMO and using the money to add a professional middle of the order bat, IMO. I would also try to land a veteran middleof the rotation starter (hopefully LH'd) by next spring - on that could give you Arroyo.Harang-type number for less cash. If they're not willing to follow through though - go young.
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How many of these posts over the 6 pages have said we shouldn't trade Volquez or Cueto in a possible deal?
Just talking out loud here as I would all but bet one of those two would be going to cash checks in Canadian money if RH was coming here.
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Don't think so. The Dodgers won't trade Billingsley or Kershaw. The Phillies aren't trading Hamels and the Brewers aren't trading Gallardo. Similarly, I think the Jays know better than to ask for Cueto or Volquez.
Homer Bailey, Zack Stewart, Travis Wood, etc. are all fair game. But Cueto and Volquez aren't going anywhere, and even JP Riccardi knows that.
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I don't believe him and frankly that and not so much the inactivity is what bugs me so. I believed what he said until he lied, and inferring you are going get what we need is IMO a lie when you don't follow thru. I am "hating" because they said they needed a particular piece to the puzzle to compete, they failed to get said piece now let's just stop right there. They knew they needed more offense in order to win (if they had any sense) and didn't get it, why is that at all acceptable? I don't go to games for bobbleheads, I want an organization who truly wants to win, knows how to and puts forth the effort. They are failing in one or more of these areas and that is what makes me hate on them. Well that and the fact they continue to just flat lie to us in the process. I am offended by it.
If they had come out and said you know we feel good about this young team going into the season and we feel it's wise to not go and spend any unneccessary dollars until we get a better handle on what we actually have on the field now. Really quite reasonable given the circumstances IMO. Then I might have been mad but I'd have gotten over it and still supported them. Maybe they wouldn't have sold quite as many tickets but I'm guessing it wouldn't have been far off of where they will end up anyway. Now I have to worry that we again may have a FO who has only their profits in mind.
Bob said he wants to win now (a long time ago mind you), Walt says we need a piece and he's out there looking for it (and has been for a well beyond reasonable timeframe), those are lies IMO and I don't like liars, I tend to hate on them.
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Yep. I am pretty sure Walt is investigating a deal. The first step is to agree on a package of players to make the trade. The second part would be to attempt a sales pitch to Halladay.
Not sure it's fair to automatically dismiss this report as BS, just so people here can keep saying Walt is doing nothing.
[Phil ] Castellini celebrated the team's farm system and noted the team had promising prospects who would one day be great Reds -- and then joke then they'd be ex-Reds, saying "of course we're going to lose them". #SellTheTeamBob
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Yep, I heard an interview with a GM once. He basically said that in modern times, every trade is such a huge longshot. It's so difficult to agree on players and get the finances worked out. I imagine it's even more difficult for someone like Halladay. The Jays are under a lot of pressure to get a lot value back. They are not forced to trade him at this point.
It's a lot different than trading for a guy that the trading team doesn't really want. Greg Vaughn wasn't really wanted by the Padres anymore when we picked him up, for instance. Obviously, Hernandez/Freel weren't wanted by their clubs either.
[Phil ] Castellini celebrated the team's farm system and noted the team had promising prospects who would one day be great Reds -- and then joke then they'd be ex-Reds, saying "of course we're going to lose them". #SellTheTeamBob
Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!
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