MLBTROne GM says "Cincinnati wants to move a few contracts, like either Bronson Arroyo or Aaron Harang, but we're not interested in giving players or taking on their money. Harang hasn't been the same guy since last May." Harang has a 4.99 ERA since a 63-pitch relief appearance on May 25th of last season.
Originally Posted by Scooter
Which is why Arroyo may interest teams more. I just wouldn't ask too much for him.
I think it should be Reds NEED to move Arroyo, might want to move Harang.
It's time for the "unnamed baseball executives put down another team's players" stories again.
Gee, what could have happened around May 25th, 2008?
I love how they put that in there. That outing has nothing, and I mean NOTHING to do with Harang's mechanics being off. They were off before that and he's still not finishing his pitches. Sad to watch because the adjustments are so simple.
Cedric 3/24/08It's absolutely pathetic that people can't have an opinion from actually watching games and supplementing that with stats. If you voice an opinion that doesn't fit into a black/white box you will get completely misrepresented and basically called a tobacco chewing traditionalist...
Harang's velocity vacillates. That's what suggests it's mechanical and not injury-related.
“And when finally they sense that some position cannot be sustained, they do not re-examine their ideas. Instead, they simply change the subject.” Jamie Galbraith
Maybe the Reds should move Dick Pole first and then find a pitching coach.
We may have a winner
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Considering what we saw yesterday when he really 'needed' more he was able to reach back and get it to get some strikeouts I'd have to agree.
Where is that on a consistent basis?
Championships for MY teams in my lifetime:
Cincinnati Reds - 75, 76, 90
Chicago Blackhawks - 10, 13, 15
University of Kentucky - 78, 96, 98, 12
Chicago Bulls - 91, 92, 93, 96, 97, 98
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I'd like to see some sabremetrics on pitching coaches. What's a replacement level pitching coach? What do we measure?
S/HR
where S=Scratching and HR=Hour.
So, Dick Pole, who scratches himself about 43 times in a 3 hour game would have a S/HR of 14.33 or 4.78 S per Inning..
Does that count both halves of innings?
... b/c if so, then he's less than a scratch per out, which means he definitely needs to pick up the pace...
I don't know but I wish he would bring his good slider on a more consistent basis.
Harang's days of throwing his elite, out pitch, slider are gone. That absence has been every bit as much a factor in his decline as inconsistent velocity, mechanical issues, and decrease in his fine point control. He's still a workhorse, but he no longer has that explosive aspect to his arsenal, and that's not mechanical.
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