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    Re: Rolen Talks Revived

    Saw a rumor floating around that the Blue Jays have people in town tonight to watch Homer Bailey and EE.
    The Sox traded Bullfrog the only player they've got for Shottenhoffen. Four-eyes Shottenhoffen a utility infielder. They've got a whole team of utility infielders.

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    Re: Rolen Talks Revived

    Quote Originally Posted by LoganBuck View Post
    Saw a rumor floating around that the Blue Jays have people in town tonight to watch Homer Bailey and EE.
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    Re: Rolen Talks Revived

    Quote Originally Posted by LoganBuck View Post
    Saw a rumor floating around that the Blue Jays have people in town tonight to watch Homer Bailey and EE.
    That would be too much for Rolen, even if the Jays kick in $5MM. EE and a non-top 5 prospect, fine. Anything more would be uncivilized.
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    Re: Rolen Talks Revived

    The return might not be limited to Rolen. At this point with all the rumors floating around they may be sending someone down to try some LaRosa's, Skyline, and a Penn Station sub.
    The Sox traded Bullfrog the only player they've got for Shottenhoffen. Four-eyes Shottenhoffen a utility infielder. They've got a whole team of utility infielders.

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    Re: Rolen Talks Revived

    This all sounds like a Buddy Bell or Bill Doran trade, i.e. lets go get a guy that we've always wanted and maybe we can squeeze a year out of him at the tail end of his career.

    Just the kind of thing you want to build a ball club on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoganBuck View Post
    The return might not be limited to Rolen. At this point with all the rumors floating around they may be sending someone down to try some LaRosa's, Skyline, and a Penn Station sub.
    Might be interesting if they trade EE and Bailey for Rolen, Scutaro and cash. Offer Scuarto arb and either he accepts and you have a SS or he declines and you have Type A draft picks. I'd still like a little more, though. Scutaro is having a career year at age 34- not exactly the type you want to "Buy now."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Tucker View Post
    This all sounds like a Buddy Bell or Bill Doran trade, i.e. lets go get a guy that we've always wanted and maybe we can squeeze a year out of him at the tail end of his career.

    Just the kind of thing you want to build a ball club on.
    The flip side of that is that Buddy Bell was productive while he was here and helped set the stage for contending teams the rest of the decade as the kids grew into their roles that culminated in the 1990 WS.

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    Re: Rolen Talks Revived

    Quote Originally Posted by traderumor View Post
    The flip side of that is that Buddy Bell was productive while he was here and helped set the stage for contending teams the rest of the decade as the kids grew into their roles that culminated in the 1990 WS.
    Bell played very well for the Reds. Would love to have someone that would contribute as much as he did, offensively and defensively at 3b for a couple of years. Bell was a professional and was good for the kids that were breaking in.
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    Re: Rolen Talks Revived

    Let's say they trade Homer and EE for Rolen and the Jays kick in the remainder of Rolen's salary for 2009 ($4M+).

    In 2010, the Reds would be paying Rolen $6.25M more than they'd be paying EE.

    What would that get them?

    Better D at 3B more than likely, but less offense (if the 35-year old Rolen is even healthy).

    All that, and you've given them Homer. A guy that has been traded when his value is low and there was never an attempt to see what he could do out of the bullpen.

    I just don't see how this makes the club better in 2010 and you've spent a bit more money in the process. Rolen would probabaly be gone by 2011, replaced by Frazier, etc. So, in the end, you spent $6M+ and gave up a live arm for nothing, but maybe a few more butts in the seats. That's it.

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    Wouldn't give them Homer and EE. Way too much.
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    Re: Rolen Talks Revived

    Bailey and EdE for Rolen would be an awful trade.

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    Re: Rolen Talks Revived

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Bailey and EdE for Rolen would be an awful trade.
    Really awful.
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    Re: Rolen Talks Revived

    Quote Originally Posted by RANDY IN CHAR NC View Post
    Bell played very well for the Reds. Would love to have someone that would contribute as much as he did, offensively and defensively at 3b for a couple of years. Bell was a professional and was good for the kids that were breaking in.
    That's a good point and I'd be OK with it if the Reds had the caliber of players like Eric Davis, Kal Daniels, Barry Larkin, and Paul O'Neil rolling down the pike. But I don't think they do.

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    Re: Rolen Talks Revived

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Bailey and EdE for Rolen would be an awful trade.
    It sounds like part of a three team trade where another player would be coming in from team C. Possibly as an attachment to a Halladay deal. Ex Phils won't part with Happ and Drabek but will give up Taylor and Dominic Brown (?). Jays don't want both OF's and want a young power arm. They flip Taylor to the Reds with Rolen for Bailey and EdE.

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    Re: Rolen Talks Revived

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Bailey and EdE for Rolen would be an awful trade.
    Quote Originally Posted by RANDY IN CHAR NC View Post
    Really awful.
    Really, really awful.


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