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    Re: Selig mulling pardon for Rose

    There is more than a little doubt in my mind that the BBWA would vote him into the HoF even if he were elgible.

    About the only baseball job I can even remotely see him having is going around to teams to give an anti-gambling talk.

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    Re: Selig mulling pardon for Rose

    I saw on Sportcenter that Pete would not be allowed to manage, even if he was reinstated. I think a coaching position or scouting job would still be possible, though.

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    Re: Selig mulling pardon for Rose

    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Tucker View Post
    There is more than a little doubt in my mind that the BBWA would vote him into the HoF even if he were elgible.

    About the only baseball job I can even remotely see him having is going around to teams to give an anti-gambling talk.
    If baseball gave their blessing to Rose via reinstatement, he'd be a Hall of Famer after a proper amount of time (i.e the number of years the writers make him wait on THEM before they let him). I have very little doubt in my mind he'd get voted in by the writers after 2 or 3 tries.

    As for the second issue of Pete benig involved in baseball -- he's 68 years old. When you couple his age with his baggage, I don't see any team ever giving him a job of consequence in baseball again. It's not like he was a great, game-changing manager to begin with. At most, it'd be something like a roving hitting instructor, where he'd have little opportunity to damage the sport.

    I'm by no means a Rose supporter or a Rose kool-aid drinker, but I agree that the punishment has been served. Twenty years away banishment is more than enough for the crime he committed, IMO. Baseball gains nothing by having him die an outcast, and stands to gain at least something (even if it's just some good feelnigs and a truckload of PR) from welcoming him back to the game.
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    Re: Selig mulling pardon for Rose

    Meet your new broadcast team of Marty, Thom, Cowboy, Jim, George, Chris and Pete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmarilloRed View Post
    I saw on Sportcenter that Pete would not be allowed to manage, even if he was reinstated. I think a coaching position or scouting job would still be possible, though.
    *cough cough* announcer *cough cough*

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    Re: Selig mulling pardon for Rose

    If reinstated, Pete should never be in a position to influence the outcome of a game. Be it a manager, coach, or anything else, it cannot be allowed to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    *cough cough* announcer *cough cough*

    Forget about the team on the field, make sure you watch Pete Rose broadcasting Reds games. At least, that would seem to be the place where he could give the franchise its biggest boost.
    If Pete is ever reinstated he will go wherever the money is whether it is in broadcasting, coaching or being a beer vendor. Judging from Pete's past, if the money is right he will do anything.
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    I have to admit I'd rather see Pete on ESPN than Jim Bowden or Steve Phillips.

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    I feel like many others that he should be reinstated. He should be in the HOF because he was one of the best players in the game. Where I see the biggest split is whether he should be allowed to coach again. I think he should be allowed to do what many other former players are doing such as being an extra coach in spring training and a roving instructor just because he would not have a big impact on the outcome of a game but could help repair some damage he has done to himself by helping out the young players who could really benefit from his experience. I really feel it would be a waste to have someone of his knowledge not be able to spread it on to this generation of players. He has been punished, but should also have some restrictions to protect baseball from being tarnished further. I think this means no permanent position with a big league club, but not necessarily no affiliation at all.
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    Re: Selig mulling pardon for Rose

    Quote Originally Posted by redsfan4445 View Post
    Who would you rather see manage the Reds???? A Dusty Baker playing guys most of the time that cant find 1st and guys that only hustle part of the time?? or a Rose that would demand hustle and accountability? AND would get the front office to get players like a LaRussa can in St. Louis?

    Logic and a sense of history is a nice tool when looking at the Pete Rose in the dugout scenario, it would be nice if we all would use it whenever the fellows name comes up around here. It's been 20 years since Pete painted himself in the corner with his own actions, my memory touches on the fact that 20 years ago the Reds had a pretty good team and Pete let his habits drive his days and nights, and most of these habits had NOTHING to do with the Reds welfare and 1989 was one of the most painful baseball seasons I ever had to endure, chances are the most hustling Pete did that year was hustling to the clubhouse phone to make a bet, that alone makes him forever disqualified from managing any baseball team that I care about.

    If you want that man in the dugout than I can't even begin to wonder why.

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    Worst-case scenario, Pete becomes a spring training instructor, things seem to be going OK, but he attracts a young ballplayer or two with the same proclivities and the mess begins again.

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    Re: Selig mulling pardon for Rose

    I'd like to see Shoeless Joe reinstated too, like Hank Aaron said, we've all made mistakes, let the guys in the Hall, it's good for baseball.

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    Re: Selig mulling pardon for Rose

    Quote Originally Posted by BCubb2003 View Post
    Worst-case scenario, Pete becomes a spring training instructor, things seem to be going OK, but he attracts a young ballplayer or two with the same proclivities and the mess begins again.
    Sure, Arizona's got casinos and horse tracks, right?

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    Re: Selig mulling pardon for Rose

    Quote Originally Posted by icehole3 View Post
    I'd like to see Shoeless Joe reinstated too, like Hank Aaron said, we've all made mistakes, let the guys in the Hall, it's good for baseball.
    If that's what Aaron said then it's pretty stupid. Mistakes, OK. But betting on baseball?

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    Re: Selig mulling pardon for Rose

    No to managing, but I'd be fine if they would let him be a hitting coach or even a roving hitting coach or maybe just being allowed to come to Spring Training to teach hitting fundamentals ...
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