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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Red View Post
    I understand wanting to get value, but in all honesty, where would Stewart rank among the young pitchers in the organization? 5th? 6th?

    I've got to think he's behind in no particular order: Cueto, Volquez, Bailey, Wood, and maybe some of the relievers like Fisher right?
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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Red View Post
    I understand wanting to get value, but in all honesty, where would Stewart rank among the young pitchers in the organization? 5th? 6th?

    I've got to think he's behind in no particular order: Cueto, Volquez, Bailey, Wood, and maybe some of the relievers like Fisher right?
    Uhh, nope. You would be wrong.

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    He is about 50th in baseball. He has a 92-96 MPH plus fastball with sink and a plus slider.

    How is it that the Phillies got Cliff Lee without including a pitcher as good as Stewart and we get an injury prone third baseman?
    We have an incompetent GM.

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    He is about 50th in baseball. He has a 92-96 MPH plus fastball with sink and a plus slider.

    How is it that the Phillies got Cliff Lee without including a pitcher as good as Stewart and we get an injury prone third baseman?
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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Yep, EE is trending into Chris Brown territory to me.

    Sometimes breaking up is hard.
    I don't mind EE going ... I wouldn't have thrown Stewart in the deal for an aging oft injured 3b whose power is gone.

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    I don't know. I'd pretty much chew off a limb to get rid of Encarnacion. I like Roenicke, but if Stewart doesn't pan out then it's Roenicke for Rolen and that strikes me as a winner for the Reds.
    I'd agree with this if it's circa 2000 Scott Rolen, but this guy has really been a mess the better part of the last 5 years (either due to injury, steep production decline, or both). The fact that he'll be 35 when he plays his first meaningful inning as a Reds 3B worries me.

    It's not the end of the world type of apocalyptic trade by any stretch, but it's likely not to produce much for a team in limbo in 2010. I'm most worried by the fact that Walt is apparently under the impression that 2010 is our year, despite the mountain of evidence saying otherwise.

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    This was an idiotic trade. Just inexcusable

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Is it still too early to grade Walt?

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    He is about 50th in baseball. He has a 92-96 MPH plus fastball with sink and a plus slider.

    How is it that the Phillies got Cliff Lee without including a pitcher as good as Stewart and we get an injury prone third baseman?

    A real GM.



    WJ is done. Worst trade I have seen for the reds in my lifetime.

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Wild thought here: maybe neither team got realy quality. Perhaps Rolen declines as he ages and gets hurt. Maybe EE continues to play 3rd like a DH and never develops his bat, Stewart never reaches the majors and Roenicke is a midle of the road middle reliever.

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    The one thing that this signifies for me is that Walt and Bob have decided that they believe that they will be in contention next year. So, to me, this is step one.

    I view this move in the same way as I viewed the Cordero signing at the time. If this is part of a larger legitimate initiative to improve the team in the short term, then I am cool with it. If the team is trash next year, then it makes no sense and it is an awful move.

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    To me, at first blush, this signals that they still think they are a few tweaks away from being relevant. I doubt we see Arroyo/Harrang moved later on.

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone792 View Post
    I'm trying to take a step back here and evaluate this one as objective as possible (or eliminating the immediate emotion), and I think this is pretty much my take. Stewart's the one guy in this deal I didn't want to see included, but if he doesn't pan out then this could work in the Reds' favor.

    Of course, if Stewart does pan out, well ... we just got reamed.

    Knowing the Reds' luck, the latter is probably going to end up happening.
    Ah, M2 and WOY, the calming voices of reason (I take all major credit cards and Paypal, guys)

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by traderumor View Post
    . Here's hoping Rolen is the beginning of rebuilding the O.
    Yep, and fixing the defense too.

    This deal gives me hope that the franchise actually has a pulse.

    I could care less about Zach Stewart right now.

    I knew that no matter what happened today, people would not be pleased.
    This board SO overvalues Reds' prospects, that it is absurd.
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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Jocketty just got owned by the worst GM in Baseball.


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