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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    If we couldn't do it now why would we be able to in December?
    I'm thinking August

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    I dunno, the hand wringing over Zach Stewart kind of reminds me of Zach Ward hand wringing a few years back http://www.baseball-reference.com/mi...d=ward--001zac

    Then again, it could BJ Ryan, part deuex. Just never know with pitching prospects, do ya?

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    For the first time ever, I'm considering just dropping the Reds. I can't believe I'm saying that because I'm an absolute diehard fan. I have never felt like this before. I travel four hours to Cincy at least 5-6 times a year and usually attend 12-14 games a year. And for what? To watch them lose. Unfortunately, I've already bought tickets to the series against the Nats (hey! at least I get to see Dunner) but this may be the last time I go. I need to be just drop the Reds and become a Cardinals fan. Walt Jocketty and the Reds have sucked the life out of me.

    There have been plenty of reasons to leave before the Rolen deal. :

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone792 View Post
    Rolen's a Hall of Famer already, IMO, and his defense throughout his career is arguably greater than that of Brooks Robinson or Mike Schmidt.
    His HOF Monitor score is only 64. Mind you, the HOF Monitor doesn't measure how good a player really is/was, only how his stats compare to the average member of the Hall of Fame. Rolen is a long way from the score of 100 of the "average" member of the HOF and, at age 34, I don't like his chances at this point.
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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by CTA513 View Post
    If the Reds didn't want Encarnacion then they shouldn't have given him a 2 year deal.
    Can't argue with that logic, still glad he's gone. EdE was the last of JimBo's acquisitions still on the roster

    the Reds are a distant 3rd place on my pro-sports "care-O-meter" these days
    Never overlook the obvious

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Dusty says Rolen will bat 5th starting tomorrow. He isn't here tonight.

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Anybody know what the response on Bluejayzone is like?
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    For the first time ever, I'm considering just dropping the Reds. I can't believe I'm saying that because I'm an absolute diehard fan. I have never felt like this before. I travel four hours to Cincy at least 5-6 times a year and usually attend 12-14 games a year. And for what? To watch them lose. Unfortunately, I've already bought tickets to the series against the Nats (hey! at least I get to see Dunner) but this may be the last time I go. I need to be just drop the Reds and become a Cardinals fan. Walt Jocketty and the Reds have sucked the life out of me.
    Nah, you won't leave.

    You've got the sickness.

    Same one the rest of us have.

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Yeah. Firing GM after GM after GM has really worked over the years....how about we actually let one stick around and implement his plan? That'd be different.

    In a few years, maybe I'll be ready to fire the guy....but not 1+ year into the gig knowing his track record in St. Louis.
    Come on Matt - Jocketty has only overseen winners in Oakland and St Louis. Thats only two places! He's obvious either clueless or just lucky.
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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    You have to think that one of Harang/Arroyo/CoCo is traded by Aug 31...there's just not enough room, $$$-wise to improve this team, as it is now, come 2010.

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Dusty says Rolen will bat 5th
    Dusty clearly doesn't respect him.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by traderumor View Post
    I dunno, the hand wringing over Zach Stewart kind of reminds me of Zach Ward hand wringing a few years back http://www.baseball-reference.com/mi...d=ward--001zac

    Then again, it could BJ Ryan, part deuex. Just never know with pitching prospects, do ya?
    Ward was in A ball at the time. Stewart has been dominating AAA.

    HUGE difference.

    I can't f'ing believe this trade. We would have been better off adding Wood and getting Peavey.
    Go BLUE!!!

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Alonso + EdE would have been a better deal than this one.
    I miss Adam Dunn.

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Yeah. Firing GM after GM after GM has really worked over the years....how about we actually let one stick around and implement his plan? That'd be different.

    In a few years, maybe I'll be ready to fire the guy....but not 1+ year into the gig knowing his track record in St. Louis.

    People said the same thing about Dan O and Special K. Give them time.

    How many more moves like today and WT do we give him?

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    Anybody know what the response on Bluejayzone is like?
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