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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    I get in the car in about an hour to drive the 8 hours to cincy for the weekend series.

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Zach Stewart is bringing Denorfia like reaction for RZers.
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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    IMO the odds of Rolen staying healthy and playing 120+ games in 2010 are not good.
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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Who woke up Walt!?!?
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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    I don't know. I'd pretty much chew off a limb to get rid of Encarnacion. I like Roenicke, but if Stewart doesn't pan out then it's Roenicke for Rolen and that strikes me as a winner for the Reds.
    Yep, EE is trending into Chris Brown territory to me.

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Couple things:

    EdE may be considered a bad contract. The Jays may not have wanted him, and the Reds had to overpay in minor league talent.

    I was at the Louisville-Syracuse game last Friday, and I was surprised at how small Stewart is. Thought he was a much thicker guy. Not that that means much, but he does not look at all like a workhorse to me. I don't like giving him up in this deal, though.

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Breaking news: Rolen injures back bending over to sign no-trade waiver paperwork.
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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Fay has spoken, this needs a sticky.

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    I don't know. I'd pretty much chew off a limb to get rid of Encarnacion. I like Roenicke, but if Stewart doesn't pan out then it's Roenicke for Rolen and that strikes me as a winner for the Reds.
    Once again. Good perspective.

    There is a decent chance that Stewart won't pan out. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't.

    It's just that I wonder if better players from another organization couldn't have been had with that same package.

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    In short, he's a Reds' pitching prospect. Useless to the Reds.

    But it's entirely possible that the Jays' farm system can develop him into something.
    This argument is sooo tiresome. Different regime, the minor league system has actually been pretty decent recently. Stewart has had nothing but success up the chain, and could probably succeed as a reliever in the big leagues already.

    Walt must think we are contenders. The only reasoning to back this trade is if you think the Reds are contending this year or next. I know you don't, and I know that 99% of this board doesn't.

    I don't even get Rolen as a target, let alone as the guy we decided to shell out prospects for. Actual contenders haven't been willing to give up as much as the Reds just did in this trade.

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    I don't know. I'd pretty much chew off a limb to get rid of Encarnacion. I like Roenicke, but if Stewart doesn't pan out then it's Roenicke for Rolen and that strikes me as a winner for the Reds.
    I'm trying to take a step back here and evaluate this one as objective as possible (or eliminating the immediate emotion), and I think this is pretty much my take. Stewart's the one guy in this deal I didn't want to see included, but if he doesn't pan out then this could work in the Reds' favor.

    Of course, if Stewart does pan out, well ... we just got reamed.

    Knowing the Reds' luck, the latter is probably going to end up happening.
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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Good chance Stewart might be the closer for the Jays in 2009
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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    I don't know. I'd pretty much chew off a limb to get rid of Encarnacion. I like Roenicke, but if Stewart doesn't pan out then it's Roenicke for Rolen and that strikes me as a winner for the Reds.
    This is where we have to hope the minor-league staff had a good read on Stewart and figured, gaudy numbers aside, he was no sure thing to be a rotation centerpiece and this was the "sell high" moment.

    Could be wrong. It happens. I was looking forward to seeing Stewart in Cincinnati myself.
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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by dunner13 View Post
    i know everyone loves stewart but in the top 100 prospects in baseball hes ranked where???? I mean hes a nice pitching prospect but you do have to give up something to get an all start GG thirdbasemen.
    He is about 50th in baseball. He has a 92-96 MPH plus fastball with sink and a plus slider.

    How is it that the Phillies got Cliff Lee without including a pitcher as good as Stewart and we get an injury prone third baseman?

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeRedleg View Post
    I swear, I'm not sure how anyone can accept this.

    As I said for the past few days, EE for Rolen is debatable.

    But Roenicke and STEWART?

    Walt has gone mad. This trade will be laughed at by the baseball world. The Reds have been BUNGAL-ized. I swear.

    Time to drink.
    EE cant field well enough to play defense at any position and his bat wont play in the AL East. This time next year hes a bench player for the jays.
    Roeenicke is a reliever, possibly a good one but still a reliever.
    Stewart is a prospect, not even our best one.

    Good trade, if we are going to have any shot at competing in 2010 then we needed this trade.


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