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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by guttle11 View Post
    Zach Stewart is bringing Denorfia like reaction for RZers.
    good analogy.
    Thank you Walt and Bob for going for it in 2010-2014!

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Look at all the trades made at the deadline. Does any trade make less sense than this one?

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by flyer85 View Post
    Truthfully I think this organization is still playing for 2009 ... otherwise this deal makes no sense because long term it is almost a certain loser.

    It's for 2010.

    I think they gave up a tad too much, but prospects flame out constantly, you can't get too hung up on them unless they are truly elite guys.

    Everyone can gnash their teeth over this, I'm hoping Rolen has a good few years left and that this is the start of a series of acquisitions of guys who know how to succeed at major league baseball.

    Meanwhile, two young pitchers are gone but the Reds will soon sign their first two draft choices and there will be two new young pitchers to re-stock the farm.

    And, of course, we should see some better throwing from third base.

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Doc Holliday not traded to the Reds. Per ESPN
    "But I do know Joey's sister indirectly (or foster sister) and I have heard stories of Joey being into shopping, designer wear, fancy coffees, and pedicures."

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    I highly doubt the Reds are playing for .500 in 2009. Their what 10 or 11 games under right now? Walt knows Scott Rolen won't make THAT big of a difference. I know we have said this before but lets see what they do in the offseason...

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric_the_Red View Post
    Aiming low or being a realist?
    If Jocketty really believes that Encarnacion, Stewart, and Roenicke are crap, and that Rolen is done, then there is absolutely no reason to make the deal at all.

    The Reds have definitely gotten more expensive for '09 and '10, and quite probably worse as well. Helluva job, Brownie.

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44 View Post
    The one thing that this signifies for me is that Walt and Bob have decided that they believe that they will be in contention next year. So, to me, this is step one.

    I view this move in the same way as I viewed the Cordero signing at the time. If this is part of a larger legitimate initiative to improve the team in the short term, then I am cool with it. If the team is trash next year, then it makes no sense and it is an awful move.
    That's right. Now, all they need to do is figure out where are they going to find/afford the requisite LF, SS, CF?, SPs to turn perhaps the worst team in the NL into a playoff team within the next 8 months?

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric_the_Red View Post
    Okay, well he reaches the majors and turns into a pumpkin. Very good odds on that.
    Actually the odds aren't good on that. The guy has a 1.67 ERA, incredible groundball rates, two plus pitches and control as a starter. Those guys don't turn into pumpkins all that often, much less at a high rate.

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Raisor View Post
    Doc Holliday not traded to the Reds. Per ESPN
    No but we did end up with an aging, sick gunslinger to play the hot corner.
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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    I won't mind watching Rolen playing defense when he's healthy, and since I'll be at the game Sunday I probably will get to do it, but this is WAY too much for him, especially since there's been no news on the Jays paying any of his contract.
    "But I do know Joey's sister indirectly (or foster sister) and I have heard stories of Joey being into shopping, designer wear, fancy coffees, and pedicures."

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Homer Bailey View Post
    Look at all the trades made at the deadline. Does any trade make less sense than this one?
    How about giving up your #2 and 3 prospects plus more for an injured pitcher?

    According to MLB.com's Corey Brock, the Padres have dealt injured ace Jake Peavy to the White Sox for Aaron Poreda, Clayton Richard, Adam Russell and more.

    Leave it to White Sox GM Kenny Williams to sit quietly during the weeks leading up to the trade deadline, only to make a major splash in the final seconds.

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    He is about 50th in baseball. He has a 92-96 MPH plus fastball with sink and a plus slider.

    How is it that the Phillies got Cliff Lee without including a pitcher as good as Stewart and we get an injury prone third baseman?
    Disagree. Knapp is probably more highly regarded than Stewart.
    Thank you Walt and Bob for going for it in 2010-2014!

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Stewart is in AAA right now pitching lights out. Odds that he never reaches the majors are about 1000 to 1.
    Larry Leubbers reached the majors.

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by REDREAD View Post
    Maybe I'm the only one, but I'm happy with this trade.
    I think you are the only one that believes
    A. Rolen will not get hurt
    B. Bob C will take on the salary.

    Terrible, Terrible trade.
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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    I'll be honest, I am not all that upset over the guys they are losing.
    However, I do look at the acquisition of Rolen as a move akin to the Pirates picking up Matt Morris a couple of years ago. Struggling ball club going absolutely nowhere - and one that, frankly, is in dire need of getting rid of elderly guys bordering on the useless. Granted, Rolen has not been terrible this year...but he ain't no savior. I've got a feeling that Redszone may have found a new whipping boy.


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