Originally Posted by guttle11
good analogy.
[Phil ] Castellini celebrated the team's farm system and noted the team had promising prospects who would one day be great Reds -- and then joke then they'd be ex-Reds, saying "of course we're going to lose them". #SellTheTeamBob
Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!
Look at all the trades made at the deadline. Does any trade make less sense than this one?
It's for 2010.
I think they gave up a tad too much, but prospects flame out constantly, you can't get too hung up on them unless they are truly elite guys.
Everyone can gnash their teeth over this, I'm hoping Rolen has a good few years left and that this is the start of a series of acquisitions of guys who know how to succeed at major league baseball.
Meanwhile, two young pitchers are gone but the Reds will soon sign their first two draft choices and there will be two new young pitchers to re-stock the farm.
And, of course, we should see some better throwing from third base.
Doc Holliday not traded to the Reds. Per ESPN
I highly doubt the Reds are playing for .500 in 2009. Their what 10 or 11 games under right now? Walt knows Scott Rolen won't make THAT big of a difference. I know we have said this before but lets see what they do in the offseason...
If Jocketty really believes that Encarnacion, Stewart, and Roenicke are crap, and that Rolen is done, then there is absolutely no reason to make the deal at all.
The Reds have definitely gotten more expensive for '09 and '10, and quite probably worse as well. Helluva job, Brownie.
That's right. Now, all they need to do is figure out where are they going to find/afford the requisite LF, SS, CF?, SPs to turn perhaps the worst team in the NL into a playoff team within the next 8 months?
Actually the odds aren't good on that. The guy has a 1.67 ERA, incredible groundball rates, two plus pitches and control as a starter. Those guys don't turn into pumpkins all that often, much less at a high rate.
No but we did end up with an aging, sick gunslinger to play the hot corner.
"You can't let praise or criticism get to you. It's a weakness to get caught up in either one."
--Woody Hayes
I won't mind watching Rolen playing defense when he's healthy, and since I'll be at the game Sunday I probably will get to do it, but this is WAY too much for him, especially since there's been no news on the Jays paying any of his contract.
How about giving up your #2 and 3 prospects plus more for an injured pitcher?
According to MLB.com's Corey Brock, the Padres have dealt injured ace Jake Peavy to the White Sox for Aaron Poreda, Clayton Richard, Adam Russell and more.
Leave it to White Sox GM Kenny Williams to sit quietly during the weeks leading up to the trade deadline, only to make a major splash in the final seconds.
Disagree. Knapp is probably more highly regarded than Stewart.
[Phil ] Castellini celebrated the team's farm system and noted the team had promising prospects who would one day be great Reds -- and then joke then they'd be ex-Reds, saying "of course we're going to lose them". #SellTheTeamBob
Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!
Larry Leubbers reached the majors.
I think you are the only one that believes
A. Rolen will not get hurt
B. Bob C will take on the salary.
Terrible, Terrible trade.
"Even a bad day at the ballpark beats the snot out of most other good days. I'll take my scorecard and pencil and beer and hot dog and rage at the dips and cheer at the highs, but I'm not ever going to stop loving this game and this team and nobody will ever take that away from me." Roy Tucker October 2010
I'll be honest, I am not all that upset over the guys they are losing.
However, I do look at the acquisition of Rolen as a move akin to the Pirates picking up Matt Morris a couple of years ago. Struggling ball club going absolutely nowhere - and one that, frankly, is in dire need of getting rid of elderly guys bordering on the useless. Granted, Rolen has not been terrible this year...but he ain't no savior. I've got a feeling that Redszone may have found a new whipping boy.
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