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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by dfs View Post
    I think you are the only one that believes
    A. Rolen will not get hurt
    B. Bob C will take on the salary.

    Terrible, Terrible trade.
    Dave, is it terrible just because Stewart was in it?
    Or because you dislike Rolen?
    Thank you Walt and Bob for going for it in 2010-2014!

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44 View Post
    Nope, but it wasn't Walt who pulled off that masterpiece.
    Walt was the one doing/not doing the "after CoCo" stuff.

    He's an empty suit at this point.
    "But I do know Joey's sister indirectly (or foster sister) and I have heard stories of Joey being into shopping, designer wear, fancy coffees, and pedicures."

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone792 View Post
    Yup, this team still needs more pitching, a shortstop, a center fielder and a left fielder. Walt's got about eight months to make it happen, and unfortunately I've got little to no confidence that it will actually happen.
    This move allows him to clear his schedule to negotiate full-time with Alex Gonzalez for an extension.

    - We've still got another season of the T-virus ... CF solved.

    I've got a feeling, though, and I bet Bob would agree with me, that the addition of Rolen--and the intangibles that he brings--will raise the production of the entire ball club.
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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by nate View Post
    It depends on how many games he plays.

    It also depends on how much salary the Reds just assumed.

    If they gave up those three players AND are paying Rolen's full salary next year, look for all the new 2010 Reds to come via trade.
    I don't care where they come from as long as they are good ballplayers.

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by nate View Post
    Can you point me to some of "this board's" posts overvaluing the Reds prospects?
    I have to leave in a few min.. when I have more time I will.
    Thank you Walt and Bob for going for it in 2010-2014!

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    At some point or time you have to take risks. Fans, of all teams, overvalue their prospects. Maybe this will turn into Larry Anderson for Bagwell but it is not likely.

    This makes the Reds better in 2009 and in 2010. I love having prospects but anything can happen. Even with his injury history I would say the current Scot Rolen is more predictable than a minor league pitcher with 150 innings of professional baseball experience.
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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by SirFelixCat View Post
    Doesn't BP to the 5th spot in the order make more sense?
    If the team had #1 and #2 hitters I'd say so, even #6. Given the manager, I'm thinking he's moving up.
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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by REDREAD View Post
    How did they get worse? Did you think EdE and the two pitchers would have a bigger impact in 09-10 than Rolen?
    I'll take Encarnacion--who I hate--for 150 games over Rolen for 100 and Adam effing Rosales for 50.

    I suspect Stewart and Roenicke would have been in our bullpen Opening Day.

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by REDREAD View Post
    I have to leave in a few min.. when I have more time I will.
    Considering you almost always are in disagreement with the rest of "the board", you'll never find anything where the entire board agrees on something. Except that I'm awesome. Everyone does agree on that.
    "But I do know Joey's sister indirectly (or foster sister) and I have heard stories of Joey being into shopping, designer wear, fancy coffees, and pedicures."

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Toronto has some of the best pitching coaches around. They will turn him from a groundball machine into THE groundball machine. Just wait and watch.
    Sounds like John Cooper talking about his latest recruit back in the day.

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by dsmith421 View Post
    I'll take Encarnacion--who I hate--for 150 games over Rolen for 100 and Adam effing Rosales for 50.

    I suspect Stewart and Roenicke would have been in our bullpen Opening Day.
    I think in 2010 you get 130 games from Rolen and 30 games from Frazier.

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Raisor View Post
    Walt was the one doing/not doing the "after CoCo" stuff.

    He's an empty suit at this point.
    Year one had zero follow-up. That was Wayniac.

    And 4 year deals for mid 30s relievers aren't usually done for the later years of the deal.

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by dsmith421 View Post
    I'll take Encarnacion--who I hate--for 150 games over Rolen for 100 and Adam effing Rosales for 50.

    I suspect Stewart and Roenicke would have been in our bullpen Opening Day.
    I wouldn't. EE just can't make that throw from 3b to 1b, and I just don't think he'll ever be able to do it.
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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    I think in 2010 you get 130 games from Rolen and 30 games from Frazier.
    Yes, but we have no idea, since he's managed less than that in 3 of the past 4 full seasons (and this season isn't to that threshold yet). I hope you're right, but precedent indicates the odds are against it.

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Toronto has some of the best pitching coaches around. They will turn him from a groundball machine into THE groundball machine. Just wait and watch.
    I see through your disguise now, "this board!"

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