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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by nate View Post
    We have the coaches to fix that!

    Maybe Rolen can play role of hitting coach

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Good luck with that. $55M is tied up in Arroyo, Harang, Cordero, Rolen and Phillips. Thats 20 other spots that need to be filled with about 15-20 million. We aren't getting anyone this offseason unless its in a trade and even then where will the money come from to pay him?
    Hopefully they can unload one of the Krivsky all stars.

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Maybe Rolen can play role of hitting coach
    That's probably amongst the reasons he was acquired. The whole "leadership" and "veteran presence."
    "Bring on Rod Stupid!"

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone792 View Post
    Rolen's a Hall of Famer already, IMO, and his defense throughout his career is arguably greater than that of Brooks Robinson or Mike Schmidt.
    If he can squeeze out one more 100-RBI season, he'll have as many as George Brett and Brooks Robinson combined.
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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Walt Jocketty has a plan? If so, it stinks.
    Step 1. Acquire Scott Rolen
    Step 2. ??????
    Step 3. World Series victory
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Good luck with that. $55M is tied up in Arroyo, Harang, Cordero, Rolen and Phillips. Thats 20 other spots that need to be filled with about 15-20 million. We aren't getting anyone this offseason unless its in a trade and even then where will the money come from to pay him?
    It wouldn't shock me to see Arroyo and/or Harang unloaded sometime in August. Arroyo at the very least should clear waivers. If someone gets desperate enough for another starter, or if someone suffers an injury, we could still likely see Bronson headed out.

    But still, it's time for Bob to put his money where his mouth is if he's shooting his load all over 2010, and that's what the Rolen deal suggests.


    Quote Originally Posted by Doc. Scott View Post
    So Rolen's contract for 2009 is covered by Toronto. That's all great and everything. But he's owed $11 million for 2010 plus this $4 million bonus that may or may not still be the responsibility of St. Louis (since it wasn't passed to Toronto when Rolen was traded there in 2008).

    My point: I think this may be your "big free-agent acquisition".
    From the sounds of it, one would think the Cardinals are still on the hook for that bonus.

    Either way, I've got a bad feeling you may be correct on the "big free-agent acquisition" part, and that would be depressing.
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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Hopefully he does.

    We'll find out! 1+ year into the gig isn't a very big window.
    So what is a sufficient window - 2 years, 3 years, 4 years?

    Do we await the infamous "5 year plan?"

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    In my 44 years of being a Reds fan, I have not, until now, ever had the thought that the Reds were "unwatchable".

    It really doesn't matter how it actually turns out, this is an incredibly ill-conceived trade.

    In a year where prospects are golden and overvalued, we seemingly overpay for 1 year of a player who's a huge injury risk (albeit a good player).

    I beleive this trade consitutes a spanking offense.
    amazing isn't it. In a year like this and no market for Rolen "the pimp" makes as a good of a deal as anyone who was selling in terms of what he gave versus what he got.
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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    Step 1. Acquire Scott Rolen
    Step 2. ??????
    Step 3. World Series victory
    That's the new plan.

    The old plan was this:

    Step 1. Acquire Willy Taveras
    Step 2. ??????
    Step 3. World Series victory
    "Bring on Rod Stupid!"

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Next year's roster of position players, circa. August 1: Bruce, Stubbs, Votto, Alonso, Phillips, Rolen, Hanigan, Frazier, Dickerson, Balentien, Rosales, backup C to be acquired, SS to be acquired (I'd target Miggy and just let the IF hit the s--- out of the ball next year). Alternative back ups: Heisey, Sutton, Gomes. Looks a lot better to me than any roster we've seen this year.

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by UKFlounder View Post
    So what is a sufficient window - 2 years, 3 years, 4 years?

    Do we await the infamous "5 year plan?"
    I'll get back to you on that

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44 View Post
    Hopefully they can unload one of the Krivsky all stars.
    If we couldn't do it now why would we be able to in December?

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Hey, I just thought of something. The $4MM Toronto included can play for Willy Taveras in 2010.

    Sweet.

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    For the first time ever, I'm considering just dropping the Reds. I can't believe I'm saying that because I'm an absolute diehard fan. I have never felt like this before. I travel four hours to Cincy at least 5-6 times a year and usually attend 12-14 games a year. And for what? To watch them lose. Unfortunately, I've already bought tickets to the series against the Nats (hey! at least I get to see Dunner) but this may be the last time I go. I need to just drop the Reds and become a Cardinals fan. Walt Jocketty and the Reds have sucked the life out of me.
    I miss Adam Dunn.

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    Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeRedleg View Post
    Hey, I just thought of something. The $4MM Toronto included can play for Willy Taveras in 2010.

    Sweet.
    I knew there was a bright side!
    "Bring on Rod Stupid!"


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