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    Reds 40 Man Roster as of 8/1/09. What players need protection in Rule V draft?

    http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/team/...n.jsp?c_id=cin

    40-Man Roster
    * Pitchers B/T Ht Wt DOB *
    * 61 Bronson Arroyo R/R 6-5 195 02/24/77
    * 34 Homer Bailey R/R 6-3 210 05/03/86
    * * 45 Bill Bray L/L 6-3 220 06/05/83
    * * 51 Jared Burton R/R 6-5 230 06/02/81 **15-day Disabled List
    * 48 Francisco Cordero R/R 6-3 240 05/11/75
    * 47 Johnny Cueto R/R 5-10 200 02/15/86
    * 46 Carlos Fisher R/R 6-4 225 02/22/83
    * 39 Aaron Harang R/R 6-7 260 05/09/78
    * 52 Daniel Ray Herrera L/L 5-6 165 10/21/84
    * * 78 Sam LeCure R/R 6-1 205 05/04/84
    * 62 Justin Lehr R/R 6-2 215 08/03/77
    * * 57 Mike Lincoln R/R 6-2 220 04/10/75 **15-day Disabled List
    * * 56 Matt Maloney L/L 6-4 220 01/16/84
    * 40 Nick Masset R/R 6-4 235 05/17/82
    * * 33 Micah Owings R/R 6-5 220 09/28/82 **15-day Disabled List
    * * 58 Ramon Ramirez R/R 6-0 190 09/16/82
    * 53 Arthur Rhodes L/L 6-2 210 10/24/69
    * * 54 Daryl Thompson R/R 6-0 185 11/02/85
    * * 36 Edinson Volquez R/R 6-0 210 07/03/83 **15-day Disabled List
    * 25 David Weathers R/R 6-3 240 09/25/69
    * 38 Kip Wells R/R 6-3 205 04/21/77

    * Catchers B/T Ht Wt DOB *
    * ** 26 Wilkin Castillo S/R 6-0 200 06/01/84 **60-day Disabled List
    * 29 Ryan Hanigan R/R 6-0 200 08/16/80
    * * 55 Ramon Hernandez R/R 6-0 225 05/20/76 **15-day Disabled List
    * 30 Craig Tatum R/R 6-1 225 03/18/83

    * Infielders B/T Ht Wt DOB *
    * * 77 Yonder Alonso L/R 6-2 215 04/08/87
    * * 68 Juan Francisco L/R 6-2 180 06/24/87
    * 2 Alex Gonzalez R/R 5-11 215 02/15/77
    * 7 Paul Janish R/R 6-2 195 10/12/82
    * 4 Brandon Phillips R/R 6-0 195 06/28/81
    * * 9 Danny Richar L/R 6-1 195 06/09/83 **15-day Disabled List
    * 27 Scott Rolen R/R 6-4 240 04/04/75
    * 23 Adam Rosales R/R 6-2 195 05/20/83
    * 15 Drew Sutton S/R 6-3 185 06/30/83
    * 19 Joey Votto L/R 6-3 235 09/10/83

    * Outfielders B/T Ht Wt DOB *
    * 64 Wladimir Balentien R/R 6-2 220 07/02/84
    * * 32 Jay Bruce L/L 6-3 225 04/03/87 **15-day Disabled List
    * * 21 Chris Dickerson L/L 6-3 230 04/10/82 **15-day Disabled List
    * 31 Jonny Gomes R/R 6-1 225 11/22/80
    * 17 Laynce Nix L/L 6-1 220 10/30/80
    * 3 Willy Taveras R/R 6-0 160 12/25/81
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    * **Not on Active Roster
    ***Not on 40-Man Roster

    The Reds 40 man roster is full. There looks like the Reds could create 3 or 4 40 man roster spots if needed by moving some players to 60 day dl. What moves would you make? What players not currently on 40 man roster need rule V protection in the December rule V draft?
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    Re: Reds 40 Man Roster as of 8/1/09. What players need protection in Rule V draft?

    So hard to read.

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    Re: Reds 40 Man Roster as of 8/1/09. What players need protection in Rule V draft?

    I put spaceing between the position groupings. Did that help?

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    Re: Reds 40 Man Roster as of 8/1/09. What players need protection in Rule V draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gallen5862 View Post
    I put spaceing between the position groupings. Did that help?
    I dont know if you could fix it heh. Take away the heights ant stuff would probably help. I dont think its that big of a deal so dont worry about it.

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    Re: Reds 40 Man Roster as of 8/1/09. What players need protection in Rule V draft?

    I'll make a stab at the pitchers. I think they'll let Weathers go and I don't think we protect Lehr, Wells, Thompson, Ramirez or Lincoln--depending of course on the spots we need. Personally I'd expose Bray too if necessary to protect somebody else.

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    Re: Reds 40 Man Roster as of 8/1/09. What players need protection in Rule V draft?

    Lincoln has to be protected unless you are paying him cause he has contract for next year for 2mil.

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    Re: Reds 40 Man Roster as of 8/1/09. What players need protection in Rule V draft?

    I would expect the Reds to remove the following players from the 40 Man roster:

    Bill Bray (Can't stay healthy)
    Justin Lehr
    Kip Wells
    Wilkin Castillo
    Danny Richar

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    Re: Reds 40 Man Roster as of 8/1/09. What players need protection in Rule V draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayBruceFan View Post
    I would expect the Reds to remove the following players from the 40 Man roster:

    Bill Bray (Can't stay healthy)
    Justin Lehr
    Kip Wells
    Wilkin Castillo
    Danny Richar
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    Re: Reds 40 Man Roster as of 8/1/09. What players need protection in Rule V draft?

    Add in Hernandez and Gonzalez as guys that the Reds will remove (ie. not pick of their options) for next year. So there are the following spots:

    Volquez (60 Day DL)
    Wells (not retained for next year)
    Hernandez (not retained for next year)
    Gonzalez (not retained for next year)
    Richar (60 Day DL)
    Castillo (60 Day DL)

    That's 6 spots, if I'm reading things correctly, no?

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    Re: Reds 40 Man Roster as of 8/1/09. What players need protection in Rule V draft?

    Well then whom do you protect? since that was question

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    Re: Reds 40 Man Roster as of 8/1/09. What players need protection in Rule V draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by BEETTLEBUG View Post
    Well then whom do you protect? since that was question
    guys that will have to be protected this fall are Stubbs, Valaika, Heisey, Wood, Valiquette. Viola is probably due this year and there may be other Latin players. Reds might also opt to protect Dorn, Jordan Smith, Sean Watson. Logan Ondrusek?

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    Re: Reds 40 Man Roster as of 8/1/09. What players need protection in Rule V draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by princeton View Post
    guys that will have to be protected this fall are Stubbs, Valaika, Heisey, Wood, Valiquette. Viola is probably due this year and there may be other Latin players. Reds might also opt to protect Dorn, Jordan Smith, Sean Watson. Logan Ondrusek?
    Good info. That's 10 names. Spots freed up - probably 7 (Weathers, Gonzalez, Hernandez, Lehr, Wells, Richar, Nix, Thompson less one for Castillo coming off the DL). The 7 I'd protect are Heisey, Stubbs, Wood, Valaika, Ondrusek, Smith and Viola. Valiquette, Dorn and Watson would be left off for the draft. The Reds should release Taveras and Lincoln and protect Dorn and Valiquette. I wouldn't cut anyone else from the current 40 man unless the team can make some August or November deals to free more space.
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    Re: Reds 40 Man Roster as of 8/1/09. What players need protection in Rule V draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    Good info. That's 10 names. Spots freed up - probably 7 (Weathers, Gonzalez, Hernandez, Lehr, Wells, Richar, Nix, Thompson less one for Castillo coming off the DL). The 7 I'd protect are Heisey, Stubbs, Wood, Valaika, Ondrusek, Smith and Viola. Valiquette, Dorn and Watson would be left off for the draft. The Reds should release Taveras and Lincoln and protect Dorn and Valiquette. I wouldn't cut anyone else from the current 40 man unless the team can make some August or November deals to free more space.
    That's about how I would see it if the players are accurate. Not sure I wouldn't protect Valiquette or Dorn over Ondrusek but I'm not as up on him as others I always thought he was more of a 6th/7th inning type of arm, kind of Manuel-Esque but as I said I don't know enough about his stuff to be positive.

    I do question if those players are accurate for instance I didn't think Valaika and Watson would have to be put on it already. But I can't recall all the rule 5 eligible rules. I just know we drafted them what 2-3 years ago?
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    Re: Reds 40 Man Roster as of 8/1/09. What players need protection in Rule V draft?

    everybody else is what I take it to be and add some guys other teams dont protect and free agents

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    Re: Reds 40 Man Roster as of 8/1/09. What players need protection in Rule V draft?

    This has a chance to be the stupidest thread of the week. It's the leader in the clubhouse.


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