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    Re: Reds 40 Man Roster as of 8/1/09. What players need protection in Rule V draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    You don't have enough posts to make a topic of our own. As far as stuff goes, Jordan Smith has a very good sinking fastball that sits 91-93 and hits 95. He has a slider that is considered to have plus potential. The stuff is most certainly there for him, but given those things I have always felt he should miss a few more bats than he has.

    I am with you on Valaika.... it seems that depending on who is talking you are going to get a different response about Valaika and shortstop. Rick Sweet earlier this year said the Reds didn't view him as a long term guy there and that he was moving to 2B and he did. He moved back after some injuries, then was injured himself.
    Its certainly to the Reds advantage to keep the door open for Valaika at SS. I personally don't like the cumulative effect of iffy defense at SS every day (but am ok with a guy like Rosales, Frazier, Sutton or Valaika getting a few ABs there occassionally), but keeping SS on Valaika's resume may help his marketability. I'm sure other teams will make their own determination but it can't hurt the perception of Valaika if the team who sees him every day still maintains that SS is a possibility.
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    Re: Reds 40 Man Roster as of 8/1/09. What players need protection in Rule V draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    As far as stuff goes, Jordan Smith has a very good sinking fastball that sits 91-93 and hits 95. He has a slider that is considered to have plus potential. The stuff is most certainly there for him, but given those things I have always felt he should miss a few more bats than he has.
    Your description plus "young, big, strong and probably the best stuff of those mentioned" sounds like a starter's profile. It seems curious that they are thinking of trying him in the pen. Perhaps they are being cautious with the elbow. It would be interesting to see if he missed more bats in shorter stints.

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    Re: Reds 40 Man Roster as of 8/1/09. What players need protection in Rule V draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by RED VAN HOT View Post
    Your description plus "young, big, strong and probably the best stuff of those mentioned" sounds like a starter's profile. It seems curious that they are thinking of trying him in the pen. Perhaps they are being cautious with the elbow. It would be interesting to see if he missed more bats in shorter stints.
    Perhpas the lack of a 3rd pitch that is nearly as good as the others is the reason for the move to the bullpen? Just a guess, I don't have any idea as to why the Reds are doing it.

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    Re: Reds 40 Man Roster as of 8/1/09. What players need protection in Rule V draft?

    http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/team/...n.jsp?c_id=cin

    40-Man Roster
    * Pitchers B/T Ht Wt DOB *
    * 61 Bronson Arroyo R/R 6-5 195 02/24/77
    * 34 Homer Bailey R/R 6-3 210 05/03/86
    * 45 Bill Bray L/L 6-3 220 06/05/83
    * 51 Jared Burton R/R 6-5 230 06/02/81
    * 54 Aroldis Chapman L/L 6-4 185 02/28/88
    * 48 Francisco Cordero R/R 6-3 240 05/11/75
    * 47 Johnny Cueto R/R 5-10 200 02/15/86
    * -- Enerio Del Rosario R/R 6-2 165 10/16/85
    * 46 Carlos Fisher R/R 6-4 225 02/22/83
    * 39 Aaron Harang R/R 6-7 260 05/09/78
    * 52 Daniel Ray Herrera L/L 5-6 165 10/21/84
    * 78 Sam LeCure R/R 6-1 205 05/04/84
    * 57 Mike Lincoln R/R 6-2 220 04/10/75
    * 56 Matt Maloney L/L 6-4 220 01/16/84
    * 40 Nick Masset R/R 6-4 235 05/17/82
    * -- Logan Ondrusek R/R 6-7 205 02/13/85
    * 33 Micah Owings R/R 6-5 220 09/28/82
    * 53 Arthur Rhodes L/L 6-2 210 10/24/69
    * -- Jordan Smith R/R 6-4 220 02/04/86
    * -- Philippe-Alexandre Valiquette L/L 6-0 175 02/14/87
    * 50 Pedro Viola R/L 6-1 185 06/29/83
    * 36 Edinson Volquez R/R 6-0 210 07/03/83
    * -- Travis Wood R/L 5-11 165 02/06/87
    * Catchers B/T Ht Wt DOB *
    * 29 Ryan Hanigan R/R 6-0 200 08/16/80
    * 55 Ramon Hernandez R/R 6-0 225 05/20/76
    * Infielders B/T Ht Wt DOB *
    * 77 Yonder Alonso L/R 6-2 215 04/08/87
    * 64 Juan Francisco L/R 6-2 180 06/24/87
    * 7 Paul Janish R/R 6-2 195 10/12/82
    * 4 Brandon Phillips R/R 6-0 195 06/28/81
    * 27 Scott Rolen R/R 6-4 240 04/04/75
    * 23 Adam Rosales R/R 6-2 195 05/20/83
    * 15 Drew Sutton S/R 6-3 185 06/30/83
    * -- Chris Valaika R/R 6-0 215 08/14/85
    * 19 Joey Votto L/R 6-3 235 09/10/83
    * Outfielders B/T Ht Wt DOB *
    * 28 Wladimir Balentien R/R 6-2 220 07/02/84
    * 32 Jay Bruce L/L 6-3 225 04/03/87
    * 21 Chris Dickerson L/L 6-3 230 04/10/82
    * -- Chris Heisey R/R 6-0 200 12/14/84
    * 6 Drew Stubbs R/R 6-4 205 10/04/84
    * 3 Willy Taveras R/R 6-0 160 12/25/81
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    Re: Reds 40 Man Roster as of 8/1/09. What players need protection in Rule V draft?

    That is the new 40 Man roster with Chapman included. What other changes do you think the Reds will make to the 40 Man roster?

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    Re: Reds 40 Man Roster as of 8/1/09. What players need protection in Rule V draft?

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    The Cardinals have engaged the Cincinnati Reds in trade talks for Rule 5 draftee Ben Jukich. The lefthander is not expected to make the club this spring and would have to be offered back to the Reds if the Cardinals do not place him on their 25-man roster. ...


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    Re: Reds 40 Man Roster as of 8/1/09. What players need protection in Rule V draft?

    Jukich really doesnt have much of a place in the Org anymore. That should be kinda interesting to see if we take him back or trade for him.

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    Re: Reds 40 Man Roster as of 8/1/09. What players need protection in Rule V draft?

    They can keep Jukich if they take Mike Lincoln.
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    Re: Reds 40 Man Roster as of 8/1/09. What players need protection in Rule V draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    They can keep Jukich if they take Mike Lincoln.


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