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    Why not bat the .400 OBP guy first?

    With a plus .400 OBP, why not have Hanigan lead off?
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    Re: Why not bat the .400 OBP guy first?

    It's been brought up before. Not in Dusty's little book.

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    Re: Why not bat the .400 OBP guy first?

    Quote Originally Posted by 919191 View Post
    With a plus .400 OBP, why not have Hanigan lead off?
    Catcher bats 8th, dude; CF bats first.

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    Re: Why not bat the .400 OBP guy first?

    No kidding. I know lineup order isn't a huge deal in the big picture, but why give away runs by batting your two worst hitters at the top of the lineup. It's just stupid.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Why not bat the .400 OBP guy first?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    No kidding. I know lineup order isn't a huge deal in the big picture, but why give away runs by batting your two worst hitters at the top of the lineup. It's just stupid.
    Wait 'til you see tonight's lineup
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    Re: Why not bat the .400 OBP guy first?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    No kidding. I know lineup order isn't a huge deal in the big picture, but why give away runs by batting your two worst hitters at the top of the lineup. It's just stupid.
    This has been the Reds managers MO for the better part of a decade. It doesn't matter which manager it is/was, either.

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    Re: Why not bat the .400 OBP guy first?

    He'd just clog up those bases
    Nothing to see here. Please disperse.

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    Re: Why not bat the .400 OBP guy first?

    Quote Originally Posted by deltachi8 View Post
    He'd just clog up those bases
    The Dusty won't have any of that

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    Re: Why not bat the .400 OBP guy first?

    I cut him some slack on this one. I wouldn't bat a slow catcher lead-off either. And its not like the Reds have a ton of power in the middle of the line-up.

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    Re: Why not bat the .400 OBP guy first?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rojo View Post
    I cut him some slack on this one. I wouldn't bat a slow catcher lead-off either. And its not like the Reds have a ton of power in the middle of the line-up.
    Not lead-off, but I would hit him 2nd, on this team right now.

    Until he shows that he cannot do it. This season is done- the rest of this year is try-outs for 2010.

    The guy has .391 OBP for his career thus far.

    He deserves it as much, if not more, than Sutton or Gonzalez.

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    Re: Why not bat the .400 OBP guy first?

    Getting on-base is worthless if you're not fast.

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    Re: Why not bat the .400 OBP guy first?

    Is this any different than Bob Boone's suggestion to hit Dunn 1st or 2nd? That was ridiculed quite a bit on here. I know Dunn has more power, but the same basic thought applies regarding OBP

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    Re: Why not bat the .400 OBP guy first?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    No kidding. I know lineup order isn't a huge deal in the big picture, but why give away runs by batting your two worst hitters at the top of the lineup. It's just stupid.
    Tradition.
    The concept of OBP has been firmly rejected by the Reds for the last decade.
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    Re: Why not bat the .400 OBP guy first?

    Quote Originally Posted by UKFlounder View Post
    Is this any different than Bob Boone's suggestion to hit Dunn 1st or 2nd? That was ridiculed quite a bit on here. I know Dunn has more power, but the same basic thought applies regarding OBP
    That's the first thing I thought of, too.

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    Re: Why not bat the .400 OBP guy first?

    Quote Originally Posted by UKFlounder View Post
    Is this any different than Bob Boone's suggestion to hit Dunn 1st or 2nd? That was ridiculed quite a bit on here. I know Dunn has more power, but the same basic thought applies regarding OBP
    Hanigan makes more sense at the top of the lineup than Dunn. I agree that it makes sense to have the higher OBP at the top of the lineup but if Dunn is at the top who is he gonna drive in with his power? Whatever boost there would be to him scoring runs would likely be more than offset by lower rbi #'s. That's part of why I think the AL makes more sense to me for Dunn. Since the pitcher is replaced by the DH in the batting order it would be easier to get away with Dunn at the top. Hanigan has no power. He just get's on base again and again and again.
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