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    Re: Post Rolen trade reactions

    Quote Originally Posted by 37red View Post
    I haven't seen the ink pen in Rolen's hand. But in this thread I do see a door closing behind him as he walks out. Everyone seems to say he's going, no if's and's and buts. I'll have to read every post and some articles. It would disapoint me if that happens.


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    Re: Post Rolen trade reactions

    Quote Originally Posted by 37red View Post
    I haven't seen the ink pen in Rolen's hand. But in this thread I do see a door closing behind him as he walks out. Everyone seems to say he's going, no if's and's and buts. I'll have to read every post and some articles. It would disapoint me if that happens.
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    Re: Post Rolen trade reactions

    Quote Originally Posted by 37red View Post
    I haven't seen the ink pen in Rolen's hand. But in this thread I do see a door closing behind him as he walks out. Everyone seems to say he's going, no if's and's and buts. I'll have to read every post and some articles. It would disapoint me if that happens.
    I'm trying to come up with a equally as long 5-sentence length rebuttal to this that would humorously be every bit as confusing as the above, but it is simply impossible.

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    Re: Post Rolen trade reactions

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    I'm trying to come up with a equally as long 5-sentence length rebuttal to this that would humorously be every bit as confusing as the above, but it is simply impossible.
    I'm sure it was a reply to a post. What I can't say with any certainty is whether the post was in this thread or in his head.
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    Re: Post Rolen trade reactions

    Quote Originally Posted by 37red View Post
    I haven't seen the ink pen in Rolen's hand. But in this thread I do see a door closing behind him as he walks out. Everyone seems to say he's going, no if's and's and buts. I'll have to read every post and some articles. It would disapoint me if that happens.
    Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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    Re: Post Rolen trade reactions

    Quote Originally Posted by 37red View Post
    I haven't seen the ink pen in Rolen's hand. But in this thread I do see a door closing behind him as he walks out. Everyone seems to say he's going, no if's and's and buts. I'll have to read every post and some articles. It would disapoint me if that happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44 View Post
    Without us having access to doctors and Rolen's medical records, it is kind of unfair to try and estimate exactly how much risk was involved there.
    Horse hockey. Antonio Bryant and the Bengals say hi. They had full access and got it wrong.

    But sometimes you just kinda know. In this case, Walt knew Rolen as a person. He was banking on the person to facilitate a change in the clubhouse and it worked. I've never heard a person say a bad thing about Eric Milton. He obviously pitched in a lot of pain, so he's a gamer. And I still wanted no part of him. Rolen is 35, and his best years are behind him. NO WAY did Walt think he was getting what he got from Rolen this year. No. Way.

    I'm beyond thrilled it worked. And I know I wouldn't have pulled the trigger on the trade that brought him here. I do agree that giving up Stewart was too much, but I likely would have suffered through this year with Frazier at 3B.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
    Of course so.
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    Re: Post Rolen trade reactions

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    Tell us your thoughts on Joe Randa.
    Ummmmm, I was right about Joe Randa, so not sure what your point is. He put up stats exactly within his career line and the Reds were not one bit better record wise while he played here. My point was then as it is now that he did not make the Reds better and they had in house solutions that would have made the Reds still bad but with money to spend elsewhere.

    Now, Wily Mo Pena I was wrong about. And Rich Aurilla. And Scott Hatteburg too.
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    Re: Post Rolen trade reactions

    Quote Originally Posted by Puffy View Post
    Ummmmm, I was right about Joe Randa, so not sure what your point is. He put up stats exactly within his career line and the Reds were not one bit better record wise while he played here. My point was then as it is now that he did not make the Reds better and they had in house solutions that would have made the Reds still bad but with money to spend elsewhere.

    Now, Wily Mo Pena I was wrong about. And Rich Aurilla. And Scott Hatteburg too.
    Apparently you are a big man Puffy.

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    Re: Post Rolen trade reactions

    Quote Originally Posted by TRF View Post
    Horse hockey. Antonio Bryant and the Bengals say hi. They had full access and got it wrong.

    But sometimes you just kinda know. In this case, Walt knew Rolen as a person. He was banking on the person to facilitate a change in the clubhouse and it worked. I've never heard a person say a bad thing about Eric Milton. He obviously pitched in a lot of pain, so he's a gamer. And I still wanted no part of him. Rolen is 35, and his best years are behind him. NO WAY did Walt think he was getting what he got from Rolen this year. No. Way.

    I'm beyond thrilled it worked. And I know I wouldn't have pulled the trigger on the trade that brought him here. I do agree that giving up Stewart was too much, but I likely would have suffered through this year with Frazier at 3B.
    You are right, Walt knew the impact Rolen could have on the clubhouse and the other players. But we were also talking about him getting lucky with his health. I could have seen the doctors telling Walt "Look, you are going to get Rolen for 125 or so games and those 35 or so games he will miss will either be on your terms or in the form of 2 or more stints on the DL".

    The Reds have done well with him this season and we can't say that it has definitely been all about luck. They picked their spots when to rest him and to this point it has worked well.


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