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  • Brian Reith

    0 0%
  • Joey Hamilton

    1 1.72%
  • Osvaldo Fernandez

    0 0%
  • Ryan Dempster

    2 3.45%
  • Brian Mohler

    0 0%
  • Shawn Estes

    0 0%
  • Jose Acevado

    0 0%
  • Jimmy Anderson

    5 8.62%
  • Jeff Austin

    3 5.17%
  • Seth Etherton

    0 0%
  • Danny Graves

    0 0%
  • Jesus Sanchez

    1 1.72%
  • Todd Van Poppel

    0 0%
  • Eric Milton(!)

    26 44.83%
  • Dave Williams

    4 6.90%
  • Joe Mays

    1 1.72%
  • Kirk Saarloos

    3 5.17%
  • Phil Dumtrait

    4 6.90%
  • Josh Fogg

    3 5.17%
  • Jimmy Haynes

    5 8.62%
  • Other

    0 0%
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Thread: Worst starting pitcher of the lost decade?

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    Worst starting pitcher of the lost decade?

    Feel free to tell me if I left off your vote for worst SP of the lost decade but I feel I got down the general list of guys who were at one time or another refered to as "the worst".


    For my money, I don't know that I remember someone being as aggresively bad as Dumatrait was in his six starts as a Red.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: Worst starting pitcher of the lost decade?

    Eric Milton - multiple years, multiplie millions, multiple disasters

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    Re: Worst starting pitcher of the lost decade?

    Jimmy Anderson's 7 starts in 2003 were very craptacular.

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    Re: Worst starting pitcher of the lost decade?

    JIMMY ANDERSON!
    I know a lot of people are talking about his on-base percentage (.308 in 2008), but I like to think more in terms of him his in-scoring position percentage. - Our Beloved Manager

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    Re: Worst starting pitcher of the lost decade?

    Jeff Austin had two of the most magical games that I can remember in recent history. So I had to vote for him.

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    Re: Worst starting pitcher of the lost decade?

    Quote Originally Posted by Austin Kearns View Post
    Jeff Austin had two of the most magical games that I can remember in recent history. So I had to vote for him.

    Small sample size?
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    Re: Worst starting pitcher of the lost decade?

    If you throw a minimum start/inning qualifier in there in order to eliminate guys who made only a handful of starts, then the winner is Milton by a landslide.
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    Re: Worst starting pitcher of the lost decade?

    My God! Look at that list, and what we have had to endure as Reds fans. No wonder I suffer a form of trauma when they use the word "patience".

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    Re: Worst starting pitcher of the lost decade?

    Quote Originally Posted by UKFlounder View Post
    Eric Milton - multiple years, multiplie millions, multiple disasters
    For the money it has to be Milton
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    Re: Worst starting pitcher of the lost decade?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone792 View Post
    If you throw a minimum start/inning qualifier in there in order to eliminate guys who made only a handful of starts, then the winner is Milton by a landslide.
    Absolutely. No one else would be close.

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    Re: Worst starting pitcher of the lost decade?

    I said Josh Fogg even though my heart says Eric Milton.

    Here's a list of futility for everyone to enjoy:

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    Playing for the CIN, 
    For single seasons, 
    From 2001 to 2009, 
    (requiring ERAp<=80, GS>=10 and At least 60% games started), 
    sorted by smallest ERAp
    
      Cnt Player            **ERA+**  GS Year Age Tm  Lg  G  CG SHO GF  W  L  W-L% SV   IP   H   R   ER  BB  SO   ERA  HR  BF   AB  2B 3B IBB HBP  SH  SF GDP  SB CS Pk BK WP   BA   OBP   SLG   OPS  OPS+  Pit  Str
    +----+-----------------+--------+---+----+---+---+--+---+--+---+--+--+--+-----+--+-----+---+---+---+---+---+------+--+----+----+--+--+---+---+---+---+---+---+--+--+--+--+-----+-----+-----+-----+----+----+----+
        1 Josh Fogg             59    14 2008  31 CIN NL  22  0   0  3  2  7  .222  0  78.1  97  69  66  27  45   7.58 17  362  321 23  1   1   6   6   2   8   3  2  0  0  1  .302  .365  .539  .904  135 1367  844 
        2 Ryan Dempster         63    20 2003  26 CIN NL  22  0   0  1  3  7  .300  0 115.2 134  89  84  70  84   6.54 14  545  457 31  2   4   5   9   4  14   1  3  0  0  3  .293  .390  .462  .852  131 1977 1157 
        3 Jimmy Haynes          65    18 2003  30 CIN NL  18  1   0  0  2 12  .143  0  94.1 118  74  66  57  49   6.30 14  448  379 21  2   3   3   7   2  10   7  4  0  0  2  .311  .404  .488  .892  142 1671  963 
        4 Eric Milton           66    34 2005  29 CIN NL  34  0   0  0  8 15  .348  0 186.1 237 141 134  52 123   6.47 40  855  784 55  7   2   7   6   6   3  11  3  0  0  8  .302  .349  .543  .892  136 3162 2082 
        5 Osvaldo Fernandez     66    14 2001  32 CIN NL  20  0   0  2  5  6  .455  0  79.1 103  62  61  33  35   6.92  8  366  326 29  1   3   0   4   3  11   0  3  0  0  0  .316  .376  .485  .861  122 1331  818 
        6 Luke Hudson           67    16 2005  28 CIN NL  19  0   0  1  6  9  .400  0  84.2  83  62  60  50  53   6.38 14  380  310 23  2   2  11   5   4  12  10  6  1  0  5  .268  .384  .490  .874  133 1436  831 
        7 Brandon Claussen      70    14 2004  25 CIN NL  14  0   0  0  2  8  .200  0  66    80  50  45  35  45   6.14  9  313  268 17  2   2   2   5   3   4   7  0  0  0  3  .299  .380  .478  .858  127 1258  811 
        8 Ryan Dempster         70    15 2002  25 CIN NL  15  1   0  0  5  5  .500  0  88.2 102  61  61  38  66   6.19 16  394  348 19  2   1   3   2   3  12   4  2  0  0  2  .293  .365  .497  .862  127 1471  894 
        9 Jose Acevedo          72    27 2004  26 CIN NL  39  0   0  3  5 12  .294  0 157.2 188 108 104  45 117   5.94 30  704  644 51  1   8   5   3   7  10   5  3  0  1  3  .292  .340  .514  .854  125 2523 1664 
       10 Brandon Claussen      75    14 2006  27 CIN NL  14  0   0  0  3  8  .273  0  77    93  56  53  28  57   6.19 14  351  309 22  0   1   6   6   2   3   7  3  1  0  2  .301  .368  .508  .876  123 1328  865 
       11 Danny Graves          77    26 2003  29 CIN NL  30  2   1  3  4 15  .211  2 169   204 108 100  41  60   5.33 30  741  684 56  6   6   7   6   3  17   7  3  0  0  2  .298  .343  .529  .872  134 2476 1585 
       12 Ramon Ortiz           80    30 2005  32 CIN NL  30  1   0  0  9 11  .450  0 171.1 206 110 102  51  96   5.36 34  755  682 41  6   1   7   7   8  16   6  6  3  1  4  .302  .353  .529  .882  134 2630 1702 
       13 Cory Lidle            80    24 2004  32 CIN NL  24  3   1  0  7 10  .412  0 149   170  95  88  44  93   5.32 24  656  591 39  5   4   5  12   4   9   9  6  0  0  8  .288  .340  .492  .832  119 2258 1452
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    Re: Worst starting pitcher of the lost decade?

    Fogg is a doing a good job in Colorado's bullpen this year. Limited IP though.

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    Re: Worst starting pitcher of the lost decade?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    Small sample size?
    He did retire 2 of the last 14 batters he faced for the Reds. That has to count for something. Of course, the four HRs in seven batters faced in his last start is fairly impressive. Scary thing is, he pitched "deeper" into that game than his previous start where he retired 0 batters .
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     5-23-2003   BOX+PBP VS FLA N   1   0   0   0   0   0     3    7   0   5   5   4   0   0   0   0   0 1
     5-28-2003   BOX+PBP AT ATL N   1   0   0   0   0   0.2   4    7   4   5   5   1   0   0   0   0   1 0
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    Re: Worst starting pitcher of the lost decade?

    Milton not only cost the team games, he cost the team huge dollars as well. He's the clear "winner" here.

    Though, Osvaldo Fernandez was actually so terrible in a game he pitched that the official scorer declined to give him credit for the victory when the team rallied in the bottom of the inning. That has to be worth SOMETHING in this poll...
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    Re: Worst starting pitcher of the lost decade?

    I gave my vote to Jimmy Haynes. He was feeling left out.
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