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    The PTBNL for Weathers

    I took a look a Nashille's roster to see who the Reds may have picked up and one name jumped out at me:

    Corey Patterson

    LOL

    No, but seriously, who would you hope to get from the Brewer system?

    Maybe Alcides Escobar?

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    Re: The PTBNL for Weathers

    Here are the Brew Crew's top 20 porspects from Minor league baseball:

    Milwaukee Brewers Top 20 Prospects for 2009



    All grades are EXTREMELY PRELIMINARY and subject to change. Don’t get too worried about exact rankings at this point, especially once you get out of the top 10. Grade C+/C guys are pretty interchangeable depending on what you are looking for.

    1) Mat Gamel, 3B, Grade B+: Bat is very impressive, not sure about where he fits on the roster due to defensive limitations.
    2) Alcides Escobar, SS, Grade B: Should I go with B+ here? Defense is excellent and made huge progress with hitting, though I want to see another good year with the bat.
    3) Brett Lawrie, C, Grade B: One of my favorite players from the 2008 draft. I totally buy into the bat. Only questions about position keep him from B+.
    4) Jeremy Jeffress, RHP, Grade B: Huge upside with 100 MPH fastball, putting things together gradually, still learning to pitch.
    5) Jon Lucroy, C, Grade B: Strong bat, underrated defense pushes him ahead of Salome in my opinion.
    6) Angel Salome, C, Grade B: He can mash, but defense continues to draw mixed reviews, and if he can’t catch where does he play?
    7) Lorenzo Cain, OF, Grade B-: Tools guy continues to improve his skills.
    8) Jake Odorizzi, RHP, Grade B-: Another personal favorite from ’08 draft. Given that Lawrie and Odorizzi were my two top picks in my Twins Shadow Draft, I suppose I think like the Brewers do.
    9) Cutter Dykstra, OF, Grade C+: Almost a clone of his father, though perhaps not quite as good in the end.
    10) Caleb Gindl, OF, Grade C+: Needs to cut back on the strikeouts, but a big bat from a small body.
    11) Cole Gillespie, OF, Grade C+: Jason Bay type, solid across the board performance, scouts aren’t wild about tools but he has played well at every level.
    12) Wily Peralta, RHP, Grade C+: A high upside arm, but a long way from the majors.
    13) Cody Scarpetta, RHP, Grade C+: Who? Watch this guy….live arm, great numbers in rookie ball, could be a breakthrough candidate in ’09.
    14) Taylor Green, 3B, Grade C+: Solid hitter, but perhaps not enough pop to play third in the long run.
    15) Omar Aguilar, RHP, Grade C+: Another live arm making progress
    16) Alexandre Periard, RHP, Grade C+: Numbers aren’t superb, but he is young, throws strikes, and gets grounders.
    17) Josh Romanski, LHP, Grade C+: Polished college lefty could move fast. He can hit some too.
    18) Evan Frederickson, LHP, Grade C: Huge upside arm from the left side, but very raw for a college guy.
    19) Erik Komatsu, OF, Grade C: A solid all-around player, a Gillespie type who has average tools but knows how to play.
    20) Efrain Nieves, LHP, Grade C: Projectable lefty got good reports from scouts in the Pioneer League. Control best attribute right now.
    I might think anyone in that 9-20 range would be fair game.
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    Re: The PTBNL for Weathers

    i would love to have angel salome... but i have this feeling the PTBNL will be Rickie Weeks

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    Re: The PTBNL for Weathers

    Dave Bush!

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    Re: The PTBNL for Weathers

    btw GIDP the game against the Cubs in which I showed with a bag over my head i was thrown out of the game 5 seconds after i walked in LOL

    my top 3 players i want:
    1. C Jon Lucroy
    2. 2B Rickie Weeks
    3. C Angel Salome

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    Re: The PTBNL for Weathers

    Alexandre Periard would be who I would probably guess. 22 years old still in A ball.

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    Re: The PTBNL for Weathers

    Thats a lot of OF's and C's

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    Re: The PTBNL for Weathers

    We know it won't be escobar because the crew wouldn't give him up for CC.

    I'd expect no more than a C+ type prospect, if not cash.
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    Re: The PTBNL for Weathers

    i expect cash. I almost always expect cash when thats an option because it seems thats how it goes for us.

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    Re: The PTBNL for Weathers

    Alexandre Periard would be who I would probably guess. 22 years old still in A ball.
    He is still in A ball because of rehab assigment. Last year he was on the AA roster and he is also on the 40 man roster. He has'nt pitched much this season due to his shoulder injury.

    Last year he has pitched something like 160 inninngs with good success. I would be carefull and wait for him to be completely healthy before getting him.

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    Re: The PTBNL for Weathers

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsUp View Post
    He is still in A ball because of rehab assigment. Last year he was on the AA roster and he is also on the 40 man roster. He has'nt pitched much this season due to his shoulder injury.

    Last year he has pitched something like 160 inninngs with good success. I would be carefull and wait for him to be completely healthy before getting him.
    I didnt really know about the injury.

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    Re: The PTBNL for Weathers

    Here's a guy I hope is among the options. He's not on the 20 listed above. Right handed SP Evan Anundsen, 21 years old, High A, Florida State Lg. 8-7 / 19 G, all starts / 2.94 / 107 innings / 83 H / 1 HR /32 W / 102 K / 1.07 WHIP. Strong groundout to air out ratio. I know the league suppresses homers, but 1 in 107 innings is impressive.

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    Re: The PTBNL for Weathers

    I think we probably ought to be looking at guys on the A+ or A rosters or a handful of dead presidents.

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    Re: The PTBNL for Weathers

    This list is a little more complete and detailed than the previous one I posted. Comes from Brewer Fan website:

    01 Gamel, Mat AAA 3B 24 L R
    Off to a little bit of a slow start with the bat since his Milwaukee debut, but it's hard not to be pleasantly surprised with his defense for the most part. This might be Mat's last time on the Power 50 (he needs 42 more ABs to graduate), so good luck and we all hope you're able to keep your stick at third base!
    02 Escobar, Alcides AAA SS 22 R R
    Every year there's questions about Escobar's bat and every year he just keeps on hitting. How long will the Brewers have Alcides wait in AAA?
    03 Lawrie, Brett A 2B 19 R R
    It seems like Lawrie has been off the field as much as he's been on it the past few months. Most of it has been injury related, but there have been a few "manager's decision" pulls too. Let's hope it does not become a trend.
    2 04 Lucroy, Jonathan AA C 23 R R
    It's still neck-and-neck in the catching horse race, with Lucroy pulling ahead of Salome this time out. Lucroy still has the plate discipline and defense advantages and a recent hot streak has seen his power pick up, too.
    05 Salome, Angel AAA C 23 R R
    Your new second-best catching prospect is now just a hair behind Lucroy despite a recent torrid streak of his own at the plate. Questions still linger about Angel's defense. If Jason Kendall is any clue, I doubt the Brewers would go full time with a below average defensive catcher that can hit. In other words, Angel still has a lot to prove to the organization if he is to be their catcher of the future.
    new 06 Arnett, Eric R+ SP 21 R R
    Okay, at the beginning of the season who had Eric Arnett as the Brewers #1 pitching prospect at the end of June? The Power 50 editors are all very excited about this pick, to say the least.
    3 07 Braddock, Zach AA MR 21 L L
    After making Florida State League hitters look ridiculous, Braddock has gone on to make Southern League hitters look just as ridiculous since his promotion. His near future lies in the bullpen - he may even make it to Milwaukee sooner than expected as a reliever. But he has too good of an arm to keep out of the rotation if he can stay healthy. I really doubt we've seen his last start.
    08 Green, Taylor AA 3B 22 L R
    Green was really starting to hit his stride at the plate when he suffered an oblique injury the other day. Hopefully it's nothing too serious.
    2 09 Cain, Lorenzo AA OF 23 R R
    Cain started his rehab assignment at the end of June... will there be enough playing time in 2009 for him to make the push for a 2010 big league roster spot?
    4 10 Peralta, Wily A SP 20 R R
    Nasty stuff and on the field results from a 20 year old. It's time to get excited, Brewer fans.
    22 11 McGehee, Casey MLB 3B 26 R R
    Who knows if Casey will be able to keep up even a large portion of his 2009 production over the long term, but we thought we'd honor Casey with a spot on the Power 50 reflecting what he's done for the club, regardless of tools or potential. The Brewers wouldn't be where they are this year without him. Good luck, Casey.
    3 12 Gindl, Caleb A+ OF 20 L L
    An up and down season so far to be sure. Take heart with this fact: Gindl's ISO (slugging percentage - batting average) hasn't changed much from last year to this year. Given the Florida State League's propensity to suppress power, you could argue he's improved on his power numbers from last season. And despite his batting average being down, his K rate is also down and his walk rate is up.
    2 13 Scarpetta, Cody A SP 20 R R
    Scarpetta drops behind Wily Peralta this time out basically because he's walking more guys. Other than that, their peripherals (and potential) are as close as close can be.
    1 14 Gillespie, Cole MLB LF 25 R R
    Gillespie has had a heckuva time getting untracked in AAA, but the ball is rolling and he's removing doubts about his prospect status.
    15 Anundsen, Evan A+ SP 21 R R
    I'll send a free Brewerfan.net magnet to the first person that can give me an accurate radar gun reading on Evan Anundsen from this season.
    4 16 Odorizzi, Jake R+ SP 19 R R
    Promoted to Helena to open the season unlike most of his fellow 2008 high school draftees. I like the slow approach the Brewers are taking with these guys. Hitting A-ball at 20/21 years old is just fine.
    17 Walla, Max R RF 18 L L
    Walla became an instant favorite on draft day after stories of his home run heroics and passion for playing pro ball started to come out. He's a little taller than Caleb Gindl, but there's a good starting point for a comparable.
    18 Schafer, Logan A+ OF 22 L L
    The primary deficiency in Schafer's game is his walk rate, and it seems like he's working to rectify that. The further that OBP goes up, the closer he'll get to the presently inactive Lo Cain on the prospect depth chart.
    19 Cody, Chris AAA SP 25 L L
    The penultimate test of Cody's soft and crafty stuff has come as the Commander has reached AAA. We've already seen a big drop in his K rate there in his first 4 starts - will he continue to defy the odds and adjust? Time will tell and frankly, the Brewers could use him if Cody shows he can handle Pacific Coast League hitters.
    20 Iribarren, Hernan AAA 2B 25 L R
    The Hurricane's early season power binge hasn't continued into the middle of the season. He's still hitting, though, and figures to get a long look at a roster spot next spring if he doesn't stick before then. I will also use this space to note that Power 50-ineligible Adam Heether needs a big league opportunity - kid's on fire.
    21 Jeffress, Jeremy A+ SP 21 R R
    It's bad news when your suspensions start coming close to your pitch velocities. We wish Jeremy well trying to knock the marijuana monkey off of his back. We'll see you next May.
    22 Periard, Alex A+ SP 22 L R
    Back from his shoulder injury, Alex is starting back at A ball and will work his way to Huntsville. While we were hoping he'd be knocking on the AAA door by now, it's good to know that one of our top pitching prospects is back on the bump and healthy.
    23 Butler, Josh AA SP 24 R R
    A Power 50 mea culpa for removing Butler from the list - he sure showed us up. He seems to be getting better results against better competition and he'll keep moving back up prospect lists if he keeps his sinker down and his K/BB ratio up..
    24 Frederickson, Evan A SP 22 L L
    The big lefty has been much better in the middle third of season with his command. He's still getting hit a little, but he rarely gets hit hard. If he can build on his command progress, the potential is there to make a big jump up the pitching depth chart.
    25 Rogers, Mark A+ SP 23 R R
    Reports that Rogers is once again lighting up the radar guns to the tune of the mid-90's is encouraging and a very nice surprise. If he can prove he can keep the arm healthy for any extended period of time, he's still a very top tier prospect talent.
    26 Brewer, Brent A+ SS 21 R R
    Not much continues to go right for Brent in his 2009 Brevard County campaign. He got a promotion last season after a mediocre first half, but it's tough to see that happening again.
    27 Prince, Josh R+ SS 21 R R
    Stealing six bases in your second pro game is a good way to get on the prospect radar screen.
    28 Garfield, Cameron R+ C 18 R R
    Going 5-5 in your first pro game is a good way to get on the prospect radar screen.
    29 Aguilar, Omar A+ CL 24 L R
    Aguilar has become very hittable this year for some reason, and it's cost him a demotion to Brevard County. I thought he was going to be a second half boon to the Brewers' bullpen this year, not the Manatees'. Oh well... go down there and figure it out, Omar.
    Swindle, R.J. MLB MR 26 L L
    Domination in AAA hasn't yet made the Brewers confident enough to keep him on the big league roster. They might want to reconsider their opinion and give the guy more than a cursory glance when he gets called up next time.
    31 Dillard, Tim MLB SP 26 R R
    I don't know what the future holds for Dillard... he's hanging on as a AAA starter with mediocre at best peripherals, but the Brewers' starting pitching is thin enough where he might get a starting shot despite his performance. I really wish they'd just let him focus on relief. Oh well.
    32 Dennis, Chris A LF 20 L R
    Dennis makes his overdue re-debut on the Power 50 only to injure his ankle. He's an exciting offensive prospect, so here's to a quick and full recovery.
    33 Rivas, Amaury A+ SP 23 R R
    Amaury continues his reign as the most under the radar pitching prospect in the Brewers' system. He might make it all the way to Milwaukee before there's more than a curosry mention of him on Brewerfan.
    34 Haydel, Lee A+ OF 22 R R
    An already iffy 2008 BB/AB ratio has taken a nosedive this year - as is the case with many a prospect, if Lee would just take more walks, he'd be very highly regarded. Haydel has a bunch of tools and he's young, so there's still plenty of time to figure it out.
    35 Wooten, Rob AA CL 24 R R
    Early returns on an overdue promotion to Huntsville are good and promise more of the same - big results without big stuff. Wooten could be a big help to the Brewers bullpen before you know it.
    36 Dykstra, Cutter R+ 2B 20 R R
    It's too bad Brett Lawrie moved to second base before Cutter was able to call dibs on it. Dykstra now finds himself behind one of the Brewers' best prospects and not really in a position to ask for another position switch.
    37 Komatsu, Erik A OF 21 L L
    A concussion and some wrist problems persisted to keep Komatsu off the field until the end of June. Here's to hoping he has returned to full health.
    38 Axford, John AAA MR 26 R R
    Axford began the year ostensibly backing up Mike Jones in the Brevard County rotation. A few months later, he's on the cusp of the big leagues in Nashville after showing a mid-90's fastball and a sharp slider. No pitching prospect's stock has gone up more this year.
    39 Nieves, Efrain A SP 19 L L
    Efrain takes a tumble down the list this month after perhaps a little too much mouth watering by the Power 50 staff in recent editions. Nieves has the stuff and control to be a good pitching prospect but he's getting hit too hard right now not to take a step back and refine expectations about him.
    40 Lintz, Seth R SP 19 R R
    Dissapointing not to see Seth's name on the Helena roster. Maybe we'll see a bump up later in the year.
    41 Seidel, R.J. A SP 21 R R
    An earlier than expected return for Seidel after an off-season knee injury. He won't get to pitch much this year, but the work he gets should get R.J. back on track for 2010.
    42 Green, Nick AAA SP 24 R R
    Some shoulder problems have limited Green this year. It's really too bad, given the problems the Brewers have had with their rotation.
    43 Katin, Brendan AAA OF 26 R R
    No one doubts Katin's power... he has some of the best raw power in the system. The thing that holds him back is plate discipline. Without a vastly improved eye for the zone, the odds of major league pitchers having success against him are pretty high.
    44 Hand, Donovan AA MR 23 R R
    A flip flop from last season: Hand started last year in the rotation and moved to the pen after experiencing some road bumps. This year he's worked his way from the pen back to the rotation. Doesn't have overwhelming stuff, but the results speak for themselves.
    45 Farris, Eric A+ 2B 23 R R
    34 stolen bases in 37 attempts is wonderful, but Farris simply needs to get on base at a higher clip. Another 40-50 points of OBP (which currently sits at .308)would make him a top 20-30 prospect.
    46 Baron, Casey AA MR 24 L L
    Baron's soft and softer approach is working against Southern League batters and has put him in a position to battle for a Brewers bullpen spot next spring as a second lefty out of the pen.
    47 Zarraga, Shawn R+ 1B 20 R R
    Never got the bat going with the Timber Rattlers and now has to share time behind the dish with new draft pick Cam Garfield in Helena. A local Helena paper even said he had switched positions to first base. One of those weeks turned in to one of those months, which is turning in to one of those years.
    48 Bowman, Michael A+ SP 22 R R
    Nothing wows you about Bowman's stuff or stats, but a year after getting drafted he keeps getting the job done on the mound.
    49 Wilson, Steffan A+ 1B 23 R R
    The thick Florida air continues to sap Wilson's power. The good news for Steffan is that the Brewers are rotating him around the four corner spots - 1B, 3B, LF and RF - regularly, which means they might view him as a future solution as a righty power option off the bench.
    50 Mercedes, Roque MLB SP 22 R R
    Mercedes drops nine spots from last month's Power 50 through no fault of his own. He's another one of a suddenly strong group of minor league relievers the Brewers are developing
    Fay says the Brewers gave the Reds a list of young players to pick from. I highlighted all the players ages from 18-22 years that were a bit further down the list. If we could get a live arm for an old one like Weathers I would be happy.
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    11) Cole Gillespie, OF, Grade C+: Jason Bay type, solid across the board performance, scouts aren’t wild about tools but he has played well at every level.
    Jaosn Bay types get a C+ now?


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