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    Re: Wed August 12 - Minor League Updates

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    Player	        AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	BB	SO	AVG
    Stubbs CF	5	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3	.273
    Bolivar 2B	5	1	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	.242
    McDonald RF	3	3	2	0	0	0	0	1	0	.318
    Barker 1B	3	1	1	1	0	0	1	2	1	.281
    Heisey LF	3	2	2	0	0	1	3	1	1	.291
    Bankston 3B	5	2	2	1	0	1	3	0	1	.253
    Griffin, M 3B	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	.212
    Valaika SS	2	0	1	0	0	0	1	1	0	.204
    Denove C	5	0	1	1	0	0	0	0	1	.280
    Maloney P	1	0	1	0	0	0	1	0	0	.313
    Dorn PH	        1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	.259
    Eymann 3B	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	.188
    
    Player	        IP	H	R	ER	BB	SO	HR	ERA
    Maloney 	5.0	8	6	6	3	5	0	3.02
    Baez 	        2.0	4	2	2	0	1	0	4.88
    Viola 	        1.0	0	0	0	0	3	0	5.32
    Ondrusek 	1.0	1	1	1	1	0	1	0.96
    Watson 	        0.1	2	1	1	0	0	0	27.00

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    Re: Wed August 12 - Minor League Updates

    I was hopingthe Phillies would have taken a liking to Harang and we could have worked a deal around the dealine involving Taylor.

    Would've loved an OF next year of:

    LF Taylor
    CF Stubbs/Dickerson
    RF Bruce/Heisey

    or (if they dealt Stubbs)

    LF Taylor
    CF Heisey/Dickerson
    RF Bruce/Ballentein

    Pipedream, I know, but it was a nice one.

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    Re: Wed August 12 - Minor League Updates

    Ugly, ugly game from Stubbs. Ever since I saw Taveras' minor league line and how eerily similar it was to Stubbs, I have had this awful feeling.

    Stubbs .270/.366/.404/.770
    Taveras .288/.370/.361/.731

    Sure, Stubbs is slugging a little bit better and will always have power potential on his side, but he is only slugging .369 this year as a 24-year old in AAA.

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    Re: Wed August 12 - Minor League Updates

    why'd you do that to me Roush?
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    Re: Wed August 12 - Minor League Updates

    Two can play this game.

    Stubbs .270/.366/.404/.770
    Kenny Lofton Minor League Stats- .300/.370/.379
    Grady Sizemore Minor League Stats- .289/.377/.411

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    Re: Wed August 12 - Minor League Updates

    Boiler, I really hope he follows the career paths of Grady Sizemore and Kenny Lofton. I have always been optimistic about Stubbs going into the past couple months. However, the Reds refusal to promote Stubbs when the time was perfect casted doubts in my mind. He has just been so up and down over his career.

    BTW, where did you pull Lofton's minor league stats? I tried baseball-reference and it did not have any on-base percentage numbers.

    The caveat to Sizemore's numbers are that he did it at a much younger age (his last minor league season he was 21). That definately needs to be included when comparing Stubbs' minor league stats to Sizemore.

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    Re: Wed August 12 - Minor League Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by BoilerBC11 View Post
    Two can play this game.

    Stubbs .270/.366/.404/.770
    Kenny Lofton Minor League Stats- .300/.370/.379
    Grady Sizemore Minor League Stats- .289/.377/.411
    Sizemore was playing in the majors when he was 21. BIG difference.

    I've been likening Stubbs to Taveras for a while now. I hope I'm wrong (or better yet, I hope they trade Stubbs while he still has value.)
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    Re: Wed August 12 - Minor League Updates

    Offensive comparisons aside, Stubbs is a much better defender.

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    Re: Wed August 12 - Minor League Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by GOYA View Post
    Offensive comparisons aside, Stubbs is a much better defender.
    Juan Castro and Paul Janish were/are great defenders at premium positions as well.
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    Re: Wed August 12 - Minor League Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    Sizemore was playing in the majors when he was 21. BIG difference.

    I've been likening Stubbs to Taveras for a while now. I hope I'm wrong (or better yet, I hope they trade Stubbs while he still has value.)
    The difference is in the power. Taveras has never projected to hit for power. It just won't happen because of how small he is. Stubbs on the flip side has a much better chance to hit for power because of his size. Whether it comes or not is another thing, but Stubbs certainly has shown flashes that its in there. Willy hasn't come close to threatening any game with his power.

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    Re: Wed August 12 - Minor League Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    The difference is in the power. Taveras has never projected to hit for power. It just won't happen because of how small he is. Stubbs on the flip side has a much better chance to hit for power because of his size. Whether it comes or not is another thing, but Stubbs certainly has shown flashes that its in there. Willy hasn't come close to threatening any game with his power.
    That's true. I (along with everyone else) just keep hoping and wishing for Stubbs to translate some of that "power projection" into actual results, and so far it's not happening. Usually if a guy has shown no signs of actual game power at any level by the age of 25, it's not a good sign.
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    Re: Wed August 12 - Minor League Updates

    I'll bet right now Stubbs doesn't appear in more than 50 games for the Reds next year. And if that is the case, ouch.
    Suck it up cupcake.

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    Re: Wed August 12 - Minor League Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by TRF View Post
    I'll bet right now Stubbs doesn't appear in more than 50 games for the Reds next year. And if that is the case, ouch.
    Counting on Taveras to play CF all next year?

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    Re: Wed August 12 - Minor League Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by BRM View Post
    Counting on Taveras to play CF all next year?
    It'll be WT and Dickerson. Dickerson is still cheap and under the Reds control. WT hasn't been DFA'd yet, so he's with the team next year too. The rest of the OF is probably Bruce, Wlad and one of Gomes/Nix.

    Personally I don't think Stubbs is an upgrade over Dickerson. So he'll have to bust the door down, and he's being lapped by Heisey.
    Suck it up cupcake.

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    Re: Wed August 12 - Minor League Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by TRF View Post
    It'll be WT and Dickerson. Dickerson is still cheap and under the Reds control. WT hasn't been DFA'd yet, so he's with the team next year too. The rest of the OF is probably Bruce, Wlad and one of Gomes/Nix.

    Personally I don't think Stubbs is an upgrade over Dickerson. So he'll have to bust the door down, and he's being lapped by Heisey.
    I don't know that the Reds FO believes the bolded part.


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