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    Juan Fransisco is now a Louisville Bat!

    Juan Francisco is now appearing on the Bats roster. I can't understand how the Reds think he is more ready for AAA than Frazier, but I am exited to see if he can keep it going at a higher level.

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    Re: Juan Fransisco is now a Louisville Bat!

    I'm really starting to hate how they are pushing this guy up so hard, yet Todd Frazier sitting there doing everything better and doesnt even get the time of day.

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    Re: Juan Fransisco is now a Louisville Bat!

    Quote Originally Posted by GIDP View Post
    I'm really starting to hate how they are pushing this guy up so hard, yet Todd Frazier sitting there doing everything better and doesnt even get the time of day.
    OR it means Frazier is the 3B at AA.
    Suck it up cupcake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRF View Post
    OR it means Frazier is the 3B at AA.
    If anyone was going up to AAA it should be Frazier. If hes going to play 3rd at AA now hes just blocked by Juan.

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    Very short sighted move. The Reds have Scott Rolen until July 2010 at the very least (they won't trade him before then and we would have to be downright Nationals bad to trade him next year given the love WJ has for him). The Reds have questions about left field and shortstop next season, but left both Cozart (SS) and Frazier (LF) down in AA to promote a 3B.

    Juan has played pretty well over his last 3 months. He has hit .314/.361/.555 with 13 walks and 41 strikeouts. Thats an average K/BB rate and the first stretch he has ever really had where it seems like he had an actual plan at the plate. Still, very short sighted move by the Reds.

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    Juan has played pretty well over his last 3 months. He has hit .314/.361/.555 with 13 walks and 41 strikeouts.
    Pretty well? I'd give him more credit than that. At some point you have to admit the kid is a legitimate prospect who has made big progress in his approach.

    What's shortsighted about this move? How could it backfire in the long run? For all we know, the Reds are showcasing Francisco for a trade. With the promotion of Barker, they needed someone, and it's likely Rick Sweet had some input, looking at what he wanted on his infield, and it's also likely David Bell was asked for his opinion. I tend to think the people on the inside have a lot better perspective here.
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    Re: Juan Fransisco is now a Louisville Bat!

    is how I feel about this move actually.
    Last edited by GIDP; 08-15-2009 at 02:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    Pretty well? I'd give him more credit than that. At some point you have to admit the kid is a legitimate prospect who has made big progress in his approach.

    What's shortsighted about this move? How could it backfire in the long run? For all we know, the Reds are showcasing Francisco for a trade. With the promotion of Barker, they needed someone, and it's likely Rick Sweet had some input, looking at what he wanted on his infield, and it's also likely David Bell was asked for his opinion. I tend to think the people on the inside have a lot better perspective here.
    I think the problem mainly is his line over 3 months isnt any better than Frazier has been for his whole minor league career or his AA numbers for the season

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    Re: Juan Fransisco is now a Louisville Bat!

    How could it backfire in the long run? For all we know, the Reds are showcasing Francisco for a trade.
    If the intention was to showcase him for a trade, it would make a whole lot more sense to let him build up a gaudy stat line at AA than it would to throw him into AAA and see if he comes to the surface.
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    Re: Juan Fransisco is now a Louisville Bat!

    Maybe the intention is, to get Juan some AB's in AAA, so he won't be completely over matched when he gets called up during September call ups.

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    Re: Juan Fransisco is now a Louisville Bat!

    I look at Francisco's numbers and am reminded of Tony Batista.

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    Re: Juan Fransisco is now a Louisville Bat!

    If the intention was to showcase him for a trade, it would make a whole lot more sense to let him build up a gaudy stat line at AA than it would to throw him into AAA and see if he comes to the surface.
    The gaudy stat line has been achieved. Could be that a team potentially interested in acquiring Francisco is more interested in seeing what he could do at AAA at this point.
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    Re: Juan Fransisco is now a Louisville Bat!

    I think there are enough opportunities in this org. for hitters that poor widdle Todd Frazier will get his chance. Sounds like his parents posting on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by traderumor View Post
    I think there are enough opportunities in this org. for hitters that poor widdle Todd Frazier will get his chance. Sounds like his parents posting on here.

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    Re: Juan Fransisco is now a Louisville Bat!

    Quote Originally Posted by redhawk61 View Post
    Maybe the intention is, to get Juan some AB's in AAA, so he won't be completely over matched when he gets called up during September call ups.
    I also think they may be throwing a bone to the Bats. They were the top team in the IL before all of the roster turnover of late. Barker was their power hitter, a role that Francisco should be able to fill well. While player development should be the number one priority, they also have to think about the relationships they have with their affiliates and those fans. It seems to me (IMO) that Francisco fills the void left by Barker better than Frazier.


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