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    Cueto

    What's the problem with this guy?

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    Re: Cueto

    Pretty dominate up until June 20th.

    He's giving up A LOT of home runs.

    In fact, 11 of them in his last 10 starts.
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    Re: Cueto

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    What's the problem with this guy?

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    The space above his head. Really normal for young guys, but surprising that (I feel) he has been rushed to the majors by a franchise that is so desparate for pitching that any warm body will do. Witness what we've done over the last few years. A losing franchise wants to win. The pitching has been horrible so we hitch our wagon to anyone who appears to have potential and rush them to the majors to avoid spending the bucks for real MLB talent.

    Ah, those days of yesteryear when real talent was brought to the Reds to shore up a position. Of course, they ignored the farm system, but...Compare that to today when we see akid get hot in AAA or even AA and all of a sudden they can play here. Not. Cueto is in that group. Not ready? You got it. No time to mature in the Reds system. Witness Jay Bruce. All the potential in the world, but forced into the majors by a talentless team. He's stuggled and I fear it will stunt him. Same with Cueto.

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    Re: Cueto

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    What's the problem with this guy?

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    He is a Cincinnati Red.

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    Re: Cueto

    Quote Originally Posted by The Baumer View Post
    He is a Cincinnati Red.
    That is a great FCB impression. Who else can you do?

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    Re: Cueto

    Quote Originally Posted by Razor Shines View Post
    That is a great FCB impression. Who else can you do?
    Unless you're looking for a summer vacation from the board, I'd knock it off.

    As to the topic at hand -- I think sending Cueto to winter ball was a huge mistake.
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    Re: Cueto

    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor View Post
    Unless you're looking for a summer vacation from the board, I'd knock it off.

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    What's with the literary beat down? His post was made in jest and so was mine. I realize it's probably not as funny as I thought it was but I don't think it hurt anyone's feelings. I'll be sure to keep my serious face on when I post from now on.
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    Re: Cueto

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRedsFan View Post
    The space above his head. Really normal for young guys, but surprising that (I feel) he has been rushed to the majors by a franchise that is so desparate for pitching that any warm body will do. Witness what we've done over the last few years. A losing franchise wants to win. The pitching has been horrible so we hitch our wagon to anyone who appears to have potential and rush them to the majors to avoid spending the bucks for real MLB talent.

    Ah, those days of yesteryear when real talent was brought to the Reds to shore up a position. Of course, they ignored the farm system, but...Compare that to today when we see akid get hot in AAA or even AA and all of a sudden they can play here. Not. Cueto is in that group. Not ready? You got it. No time to mature in the Reds system. Witness Jay Bruce. All the potential in the world, but forced into the majors by a talentless team. He's stuggled and I fear it will stunt him. Same with Cueto.

    Well, you asked .
    Though he did take a rather expedited trip through the minors, I'm not sure he was 'rushed.' He's shown the ability to not be overmatched, but rather, overmatch hitters. I think he was ready. I think his problems are simply having to do with inconsistency. You'll get that from any young player. Even had he spent another year or two in the minors, he'd still likely be in the same situation. It's a learning curve. Few players will hit the big leagues and dominate the entire season.

    It's easy to blame management for everything. But in this case, let's call a spade a spade - Cueto simply has to pitch more effectively more often.
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    Re: Cueto

    Cueto is fine. I think many starters on the Red's try to be to perfect due to the offense lacking any real punch. The kid has done great as far as I am concerned in yr 1 as a MLB player.
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    Re: Cueto

    Shut. Him. Down.

    No winter ball, either.

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    Re: Cueto

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlifeman21 View Post
    Shut. Him. Down.

    No winter ball, either.
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    Re: Cueto

    I disagree about shutting him down. Let him go out there and pitch if he's healthy. He's not going over 4 innings anyway. Who knows, he may find out what the trouble is pitchng in one of these meaningless games.

    I think it's a mechanical problem. And I don't think Dick Pole is the guy to fix him. I'd also let him pitch in winter ball - if healthy. Maybe Soto or someone else can fix him.
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    And I don't think Dick Pole is the guy to fix him.
    And I think you are on to something.
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    Re: Cueto

    From the game thread last evening:

    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    Since 6/20 he's done this:

    ERA=8.29, FIP=6.01, K/9=7.7, BB/9=4.14.

    I don't think it's so much his head as this: strike%=59.

    He's went a prolonged spell without his plus command.

    The Reds are hopefully working hard on figuring out why his command is going south.
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    Re: Cueto

    I'd just like to see some accountability. The questions need to be asked in public. Pitching coach, what's up with Cueto? Hitting coach, why isn't this team hitting? Even if the answer is, "What can you do with these knuckleheads..." General manager, why is team full of knuckleheads?


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