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    Mariners Acquire Bill Hall

    Mariners Acquire Bill Hall By Eddie Schmid [August 19 at 5:05pm CST]

    According to the Seattle Times' Geoff Baker, the Mariners have acquired Bill Hall from the Brewers. There's an announcement expected before game time. According to Baker's sources, the Brewers will receive minor-league pitcher Ruben Flores in return.

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    Re: Mariners Acquire Bill Hall

    The Mariners are about to announce that they've acquired Bill Hall from the Milwaukee Brewers. We expect an announcement in 15 minutes.

    No word yet on whether anybody is going back the other way, though I just got it confirmed that it's minor league pitcher Ruben Flores.

    Hall will be put on the major league roster and will join the team here in Detroit.

    The slumping third baseman/outfielder was designated for assignment by the Brewers a week ago and has until Friday to trade, outright to the minors or release him.

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...yndication=rss
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    Re: Mariners Acquire Bill Hall

    This is a win for us.

    One: We don't have to face Bill Hall anymore.

    Two: Jocketty can't acquire him now.
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    Re: Mariners Acquire Bill Hall

    Are the Mariners taking on that entire contract?
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    Re: Mariners Acquire Bill Hall

    Glad it's not the Reds
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    Re: Mariners Acquire Bill Hall

    Is Bill Bavasi go back to Seattle?
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    Re: Mariners Acquire Bill Hall

    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    Is Bill Bavasi go back to Seattle?
    yeah this seems like an odd setback for them. Are they going CYA if Beltre is gone after the season?
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    Re: Mariners Acquire Bill Hall

    good news.

    Hall would be a guy to invite to spring training but is not a good player at this point. plus he has a huge contract
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    Re: Mariners Acquire Bill Hall

    I believe the Brewers are picking up basically all of Hall's remaining contract.

    This is basically the Ms trading a relatively generic arm for a little insurance at third with the hope that he can rebound a bit offensively.

    It's not a big risk for the Ms.

    As Brutus suggests, the "big deal" part of it is what it might mean regarding the likelihood Beltre returns.
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    Re: Mariners Acquire Bill Hall

    Thank god it's not us.


    If the Brewers are picking up most of the contract than it's not a bad deal for the M's though. Plus their GM with the crazy name was the one who worked in Milwaukee to get guys like Hall.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    "This isnít stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner

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    Re: Mariners Acquire Bill Hall

    I actually wouldn't have minded the Reds adding Hall for that price. All the M's had to give up was a non-descript minor league arm AND the Brewers are picking up the whole salary? If Hall returns to anything resembling his old form, this is a heist. Heck, even if he becomes a somewhat useful utility player, this is a smart move.
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    Re: Mariners Acquire Bill Hall

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    I actually wouldn't have minded the Reds adding Hall for that price. All the M's had to give up was a non-descript minor league arm AND the Brewers are picking up the whole salary? If Hall returns to anything resembling his old form, this is a heist. Heck, even if he becomes a somewhat useful utility player, this is a smart move.
    Normally, I'm in favor of fliers with high upside. In this case, I don't see a whole lot of it.

    His stats have universally declined each of the past three seasons (correlation or causation to PED testing?)

    Rates from 2006-2009 in chronological order (you will see a pattern):

    BA

    270-254-225-201

    OBP

    345-315-293-265

    SLG

    553-425-396-341

    OPS

    898-740-689-606

    K%

    30-28-30-34

    ISO

    283-170-171-140


    Going on 30 and universally going the wrong direction. Probably best to stay far away, even as a low-expense flier.
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    Re: Mariners Acquire Bill Hall

    Whew...... we avoided that mess
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    Re: Mariners Acquire Bill Hall

    Good. Keep him away from Dusty Baker.


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