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  • Walt Jocketty

    13 17.81%
  • Wayne Krivsky

    45 61.64%
  • They are equal to me.

    15 20.55%
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Thread: Walt Jocketty vs. Wayne Krivsky

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    Walt Jocketty vs. Wayne Krivsky

    If you look at it in terms of Major League production given up versus production acquired, Wayne Krivsky seems to be doing a better job than Walt Jocketty so far (feel free to peruse the stats below). However, that is not the end-all say-all for how well a GM has done. For example, perhaps one has been better than the other at stocking young talent. Another thing to keep in mind is that Jocketty may have been a bit hamstrung by some of Krivsky's bad decisions (i.e. Corey Patterson, Paul Bako, etc.). Then again, as we all unfortunately know, Jocketty hasn't been flawless either (Willy Taveras, Mike Lincoln, etc.). Anyway, keeping in mind all aspects of being a GM, which one does the ORG prefer?

    Players released/traded by Walt Jocketty:
    Code:
    Name		G	PA	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	SB	CS	BB	SO	HBP	SH	BA	OBP	SLG	OPS
    Ken Griffey Jr.	131	510	436	50	102	25	0	15	58	0	0	69	82	1	0	0.234	0.337	0.394	0.732
    Adam Dunn	162	685	548	84	149	34	0	39	112	1	1	131	178	4	0	0.272	0.415	0.547	0.962
    Andy Phillips	4	5	5	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0.200	0.200	0.200	0.400
    Ryan Freel	41	101	88	11	17	2	0	0	5	1	0	11	23	1	1	0.193	0.290	0.216	0.506
    Jeff Keppinger	78	259	224	26	60	12	3	3	19	0	2	24	23	3	6	0.268	0.344	0.388	0.732
    JerryHairstonJr.16	35	31	5	9	2	0	1	6	0	0	3	2	0	1	0.290	0.353	0.452	0.805
    EdwinEncarnacion14	58	54	4	11	2	0	1	3	0	0	2	9	0	0	0.204	0.224	0.296	0.520
    Alex Gonzalez	3	12	11	0	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	2	0	1	0.091	0.091	0.182	0.273
    Juan Castro	94	267	243	30	59	9	0	3	25	0	0	16	48	1	4	0.243	0.289	0.317	0.606
    Dave Ross	47	125	107	15	28	6	0	6	15	0	0	16	34	0	2	0.262	0.358	0.486	0.844
    Corey Patterson	5	15	15	0	2	0	0	0	0	2	0	0	6	0	0	0.133	0.133	0.133	0.267
    Paul Bako	22	61	57	5	10	2	0	1	5	0	0	3	16	1	0	0.175	0.230	0.263	0.493
    TOTALS		617	2133	1819	231	449	95	3	69	248	4	3	275	423	11	15	0.247	0.345	0.416	0.761
    
    David Patton	3	1	17	0	0	0	5	0	24.0	25	16	15	4	15	20	0	2	5.63	1.67
    Josh Roenicke	0	0	4	0	0	0	1	0	3.3	5	5	5	0	5	5	0	0	13.50	3.00
    Dave Weathers	0	1	4	0	0	0	0	0	3.3	6	6	4	1	4	2	0	0	10.80	3.00
    Todd Coffey	5	2	65	0	0	0	15	2	69.0	63	17	17	3	17	59	2	1	2.22	1.16
    Jeremy Affeldt	0	1	53	0	0	0	6	0	44.7	30	10	9	1	25	37	1	2	1.81	1.23
    Josh Fogg	0	1	19	0	0	0	7	0	37.0	22	9	9	3	14	21	0	0	2.19	0.97
    Matt Belisle	1	1	15	0	0	0	2	0	18.3	26	19	17	4	5	12	1	1	8.35	1.69
    TOTALS		9	7	177	0	0	0	36	2	199.7	177	82	76	16	85	156	4	6	3.43	1.31
    Players acquired by Walt Jocketty:
    Code:
    Name		G	PA	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	SB	CS	BB	SO	HBP	SH	BA	OBP	SLG	OPS
    Willy Taveras	98	428	395	54	94	11	2	1	15	25	6	18	57	2	11	0.238	0.273	0.284	0.557
    Andy Phillips	37	57	52	10	14	2	0	3	6	0	0	4	10	1	0	0.269	0.333	0.481	0.814
    Danny Richar	23	46	44	5	10	2	0	0	3	1	0	1	10	0	1	0.227	0.244	0.273	0.517
    Wilkin Castillo	22	37	35	6	11	1	0	0	2	0	0	1	5	0	1	0.314	0.333	0.343	0.676
    Ramon Hernandez	77	316	273	23	68	12	1	5	36	1	0	32	33	3	4	0.249	0.330	0.355	0.685
    Drew Sutton	20	38	36	4	6	2	0	1	4	0	1	2	13	0	0	0.167	0.211	0.306	0.516
    Scott Rolen	4	16	14	3	2	1	0	1	2	0	0	1	2	1	0	0.143	0.250	0.429	0.679
    WladimirBalntien14	42	36	4	11	1	0	1	5	1	0	6	7	0	0	0.306	0.405	0.417	0.821
    Darnell McDonald24	44	40	4	7	0	1	0	1	0	0	3	9	1	0	0.175	0.250	0.225	0.475
    Laynce Nix	98	279	255	34	62	24	1	9	32	0	0	19	70	2	0	0.243	0.297	0.451	0.748
    Jonny Gomes	64	197	174	25	48	8	0	15	36	1	0	17	59	5	0	0.276	0.355	0.580	0.936
    TOTALS		481	1500	1354	172	333	64	5	36	142	29	7	104	275	15	17	0.246	0.304	0.380	0.684
    
    Name		W	L	G	GS	CG	SHO	GF	SV	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	SO	HBP	WP	ERA	WHIP
    Nick Masset	5	1	58	0	0	0	10	0	71.0	52	25	21	8	26	59	0	7	2.66	1.10
    Micah Owings	6	11	19	18	0	0	1	0	102.7	114	65	61	16	54	61	6	1	5.35	1.64
    Justin Lehr	2	0	4	4	1	1	0	0	26.0	25	7	7	1	8	7	1	1	2.42	1.27
    Kip Wells	0	1	2	0	0	0	0	0	6.7	6	4	4	0	5	7	0	0	5.40	1.65
    Arthur Rhodes	0	1	50	0	0	0	10	0	40.3	27	12	11	3	16	37	1	1	2.45	1.07
    TOTALS		13	14	133	22	1	1	21	0	246.7	224	113	104	28	109	171	8	10	3.79	1.35
    Players released/traded by Wayne Krivsky:
    Code:
    Name		G	PA	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	SB	CS	BB	SO	HBP	SH	BA	OBP	SLG	OPS
    Timo Perez	52	131	121	15	41	10	2	1	16	1	1	9	10	1	0	0.339	0.389	0.479	0.869
    Wily Mo Pena	258	827	760	88	196	34	3	26	91	2	3	52	232	9	6	0.258	0.313	0.413	0.726
    Matt Kata	118	219	208	23	45	10	1	3	21	2	0	5	38	3	2	0.216	0.244	0.317	0.562
    Tony Womack	19	57	50	6	14	1	0	1	2	1	1	4	4	0	3	0.280	0.333	0.360	0.693
    Terrence Long	12	40	36	6	6	1	0	0	2	0	0	4	8	0	0	0.167	0.250	0.194	0.444
    Cody Ross	417	1446	1308	187	346	88	6	65	215	12	3	105	306	22	1	0.265	0.327	0.490	0.817
    Austin Kearns	390	1503	1286	177	311	63	4	34	159	7	8	179	270	30	1	0.242	0.346	0.376	0.723
    Royce Clayton	77	216	195	24	48	14	0	1	12	2	1	14	53	1	3	0.246	0.296	0.333	0.629
    Felipe Lopez	480	2025	1810	239	501	91	13	24	155	59	27	175	327	11	16	0.277	0.342	0.381	0.723
    Jason LaRue	162	461	404	38	77	19	1	9	37	2	0	34	100	13	6	0.191	0.273	0.309	0.582
    Brendan Harris	363	1424	1287	166	352	80	7	25	138	5	3	102	262	9	15	0.274	0.329	0.405	0.733
    Brandon Watson	5	19	18	2	5	1	0	0	2	1	0	1	1	0	0	0.278	0.316	0.333	0.649
    Jeff Conine	21	50	41	2	8	2	0	0	5	0	0	7	8	0	1	0.195	0.306	0.244	0.550
    Rich Aurilia	289	918	845	83	222	42	3	17	100	1	1	60	123	5	0	0.263	0.313	0.380	0.693
    Dewayne Wise	119	268	244	32	55	11	4	8	27	11	3	11	58	4	7	0.225	0.268	0.402	0.670
    Josh Hamilton	228	997	890	134	261	50	7	40	171	17	3	86	188	12	0	0.293	0.360	0.500	0.860
    Jorge Cantu	264	1155	1057	142	294	70	0	42	162	8	2	74	167	15	0	0.278	0.332	0.464	0.795
    Chris Denorfia	33	73	64	11	18	3	0	1	10	2	0	6	16	1	2	0.281	0.352	0.375	0.727
    Buck Coats	8	6	5	0	1	0	0	0	0	1	0	1	2	0	0	0.200	0.333	0.200	0.533
    Jason Ellison	9	14	13	5	3	0	0	0	2	0	0	1	1	0	0	0.231	0.286	0.231	0.516
    Jeff Fiorentino	2	1	1	0	1	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	1.000	1.000	1.000	2.000
    Ray Olmedo	27	54	51	6	11	4	0	0	1	0	0	2	9	0	1	0.216	0.245	0.294	0.539
    Chad Moeller	65	172	155	18	34	10	1	2	12	0	0	10	27	6	0	0.219	0.291	0.335	0.626
    TOTALS		3418	12076	10849	1404	2850	604	52	299	1341	134	56	942	2210	142	64	0.263	0.326	0.411	0.736
    
    Name		W	L	G	GS	CG	SHO	GF	SV	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	SO	HBP	WP	ERA	WHIP
    Luke Hudson	7	7	27	16	0	0	1	0	104.0	111	67	62	8	42	64	4	6	5.37	1.47
    Josh Hancock	3	4	70	0	0	0	19	1	89.7	84	43	40	11	28	59	1	4	4.01	1.25
    Mike Venafro	1	0	7	0	0	0	0	0	3.7	3	1	1	0	3	2	0	0	2.45	1.64
    Allan Simpson	0	0	2	0	0	0	1	0	2.7	1	2	1	0	4	5	0	1	3.38	1.88
    Dave Williams	3	2	8	6	0	0	2	0	33.3	51	29	29	7	9	18	2	2	7.83	1.80
    Rick White	4	2	67	0	0	0	17	0	72.0	85	52	48	7	33	41	2	3	6.00	1.64
    Travis Chick	0	0	3	0	0	0	0	0	5.0	7	7	7	0	10	2	0	0	12.60	3.40
    Ryan Wagner	3	5	40	0	0	0	7	0	46.3	56	32	26	5	23	29	2	4	5.05	1.71
    Mike Burns	3	4	17	7	0	0	6	0	51.3	61	33	30	9	16	41	1	1	5.26	1.50
    Ryan Franklin	12	11	190	0	0	0	87	48	205.3	187	68	64	20	51	126	7	5	2.81	1.16
    ScottSchoeneweis3	10	181	0	0	0	36	3	135.3	144	78	72	20	62	88	8	6	4.79	1.52
    Jason Standridge0	1	4	0	0	0	2	0	7.7	11	10	7	2	5	6	0	0	8.22	2.09
    Justin Germano	7	13	38	29	0	0	7	0	177.0	187	103	95	22	53	95	9	5	4.83	1.36
    Grant Balfour	11	6	130	0	0	0	28	5	137.0	107	60	58	8	68	165	3	3	3.81	1.28
    Kyle Lohse	20	13	63	61	1	1	0	0	292.3	306	138	131	29	78	178	6	8	4.03	1.31
    Kirk Saarloos	1	0	8	1	0	0	1	0	26.3	37	17	16	2	4	12	0	0	5.47	1.56
    Eddie Guardado	5	6	106	0	0	0	22	4	89.7	83	44	42	11	31	50	2	1	4.22	1.27
    Carlos Guevara	1	0	10	0	0	0	6	0	12.3	13	9	8	2	9	11	0	3	5.84	1.78
    Jeff Stevens	0	0	6	0	0	0	2	0	7.3	7	6	6	0	5	6	1	0	7.36	1.64
    Mike Gosling	0	0	7	0	0	0	3	0	12.0	17	9	9	3	5	7	0	0	6.75	1.83
    Victor Santos	0	2	4	3	0	0	0	0	14.3	20	13	13	5	10	4	1	1	8.16	2.09
    TOTALS		84	86	988	123	1	1	247	61	1,524.7	1578	821	765	171	549	1009	49	53	4.52	1.40
    Players acquired by Wayne Krivsky:
    Code:
    Name		G	PA	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	SB	CS	BB	SO	HBP	SH	BA	OBP	SLG	OPS
    Scott Hatteberg	291	1017	869	115	253	58	1	23	105	2	3	130	83	6	3	0.291	0.384	0.440	0.823
    QuintonMcCracken45	60	53	5	11	1	1	1	2	2	0	4	9	0	3	0.208	0.263	0.321	0.584
    Dave Ross	238	817	652	78	149	32	1	39	99	0	1	85	190	4	14	0.229	0.296	0.460	0.757
    Brandon Phillips558	2361	2157	311	589	98	17	85	322	99	28	143	342	28	8	0.273	0.323	0.452	0.775
    Cody Ross	2	5	5	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	2	0	0	0.200	0.200	0.200	0.400
    Juan Castro	115	209	194	14	43	10	1	2	19	0	1	10	34	0	3	0.222	0.257	0.314	0.572
    Royce Clayton	50	164	149	13	35	8	0	2	13	6	3	11	32	1	2	0.235	0.290	0.329	0.619
    Brendan Harris	8	11	10	2	2	0	0	1	1	0	0	1	4	0	0	0.200	0.273	0.500	0.773
    Brandon Watson	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	-	-	-	-
    ToddHollndsworth34	74	68	6	18	6	0	1	8	0	1	6	19	0	0	0.265	0.324	0.397	0.721
    Alex Gonzalez	178	700	636	71	158	39	1	19	81	0	2	39	111	10	8	0.248	0.299	0.403	0.702
    Chad Moeller	30	49	48	6	8	1	0	1	2	0	0	0	17	0	1	0.167	0.167	0.250	0.417
    Josh Hamilton	90	337	298	52	87	17	2	19	47	3	3	33	65	4	0	0.292	0.368	0.554	0.922
    Jeff Conine	80	242	215	23	57	11	1	6	32	4	0	20	28	0	1	0.265	0.320	0.409	0.729
    Enrique Cruz	1	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0.000	0.000	0.000	0.000
    Jeff Keppinger	188	778	700	84	202	40	4	8	75	5	2	54	36	6	12	0.289	0.342	0.391	0.733
    Pedro Lopez	14	47	45	1	8	2	0	0	0	0	0	1	10	1	0	0.178	0.213	0.222	0.435
    Mark Bellhorn	13	18	14	2	1	0	0	0	1	0	0	4	5	0	0	0.071	0.278	0.071	0.349
    Jason Ellison	37	56	48	7	9	1	0	1	2	1	0	5	15	1	2	0.188	0.278	0.271	0.549
    Buck Coats	20	38	34	2	7	4	0	0	2	0	0	3	15	0	0	0.206	0.263	0.324	0.587
    Jorge Cantu	27	68	57	8	17	8	0	1	9	0	0	7	10	2	0	0.298	0.382	0.491	0.874
    Ryan Jorgensen	4	15	15	3	3	0	0	2	6	0	0	0	5	0	0	0.200	0.200	0.600	0.800
    Corey Patterson	135	392	366	46	75	17	2	10	34	14	9	16	57	1	5	0.205	0.238	0.344	0.582
    JerryHairstonJr.166	637	568	94	163	38	3	14	63	22	6	44	82	6	14	0.287	0.342	0.438	0.780
    Andy Phillips	15	23	21	1	3	1	0	0	4	0	0	2	4	0	0	0.143	0.217	0.190	0.408
    Jolbert Cabrera	48	126	115	17	29	6	1	3	12	2	0	8	29	2	0	0.252	0.310	0.400	0.710
    Kevin Barker	2	2	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	2	0	0	0.000	0.000	0.000	0.000
    Paul Bako	99	338	299	30	65	11	2	6	35	0	2	34	90	1	3	0.217	0.299	0.328	0.626
    Jerry Gil	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	-	-	-	-
    TOTALS		2490	8587	7639	991	1993	409	37	244	974	161	61	660	1296	73	79	0.261	0.320	0.420	0.740
    
    Name		W	L	G	GS	CG	SHO	GF	SV	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	SO	HBP	WP	ERA	WHIP
    Bronson Arroyo	49	48	127	127	8	3	0	0	805.0	834	411	374	113	248	588	32	17	4.18	1.34
    Jon Coutlangus	4	2	64	0	0	0	9	0	41.0	38	22	20	3	27	38	4	6	4.39	1.59
    Joe Mays	0	1	7	4	0	0	0	0	27.0	40	23	22	4	12	16	0	3	7.33	1.93
    Esteban Yan	1	0	14	0	0	0	4	1	15.0	13	7	6	4	7	8	0	1	3.60	1.33
    Eddie Guardado	0	0	30	0	0	0	13	8	27.7	31	16	13	4	6	25	2	0	4.23	1.34
    Gary Majewski	2	6	88	0	0	0	18	0	78.0	134	67	64	10	22	46	8	1	7.38	2.00
    Bill Bray	7	6	111	0	0	0	22	3	89.0	99	45	38	8	38	91	1	2	3.84	1.54
    Rheal Cormier	0	1	27	0	0	0	8	0	17.0	25	10	10	4	5	7	1	0	5.29	1.76
    Kyle Lohse	9	17	33	32	2	1	1	0	194.7	213	109	99	23	52	131	6	5	4.58	1.36
    Ryan Franklin	5	2	20	0	0	0	6	0	24.3	27	14	12	3	16	18	0	1	4.44	1.77
    ScottSchoeneweis2	0	16	0	0	0	8	3	14.3	9	1	1	1	8	11	1	1	0.63	1.19
    Jason Johnson	0	0	4	0	0	0	0	0	8.7	11	5	3	1	0	4	1	0	3.12	1.27
    Sun-Woo Kim	0	1	2	1	0	0	0	0	6.7	7	4	4	3	0	4	0	2	5.40	1.05
    Mike Stanton	1	3	69	0	0	0	11	0	57.3	75	39	38	6	18	40	5	1	5.97	1.62
    Jared Burton	9	3	137	0	0	0	33	0	143.3	134	64	58	11	65	122	6	7	3.64	1.39
    Victor Santos	1	4	32	0	0	0	12	0	49.0	51	28	28	10	23	44	2	2	5.14	1.51
    Kirk Saarloos	1	5	34	3	0	0	7	0	42.7	54	36	34	8	19	27	3	1	7.17	1.71
    Bobby Livingston3	3	10	10	0	0	0	0	56.3	77	35	33	8	8	27	1	2	5.27	1.51
    Ricky Stone	0	0	5	0	0	0	3	0	5.3	7	6	6	4	0	3	1	0	10.13	1.31
    Marcus McBeth	3	2	23	0	0	0	7	0	19.7	22	13	13	2	7	17	1	2	5.95	1.47
    Edinson Volquez	21	8	42	41	0	0	1	0	245.7	201	107	94	20	125	253	19	12	3.44	1.33
    FranciscoCordero6	7	119	0	0	0	103	59	117.7	98	41	38	8	58	116	3	5	2.91	1.33
    Jeremy Affeldt	1	1	74	0	0	0	20	0	78.3	78	36	29	9	25	80	3	6	3.33	1.31
    Mike Lincoln	3	6	83	0	0	0	20	0	93.3	95	58	56	17	43	66	7	4	5.40	1.48
    Daryl Thompson	0	2	3	3	0	0	0	0	14.3	20	11	11	3	7	6	1	1	6.91	1.88
    DanielRayHerrera1	4	60	0	0	0	8	0	56.0	60	27	19	5	21	47	3	1	3.05	1.45
    Josh Fogg	2	7	22	14	0	0	3	0	78.3	97	69	66	17	27	45	6	1	7.58	1.58
    Matt Maloney	0	2	3	3	0	0	0	0	17.7	18	12	12	6	5	14	2	0	6.11	1.30
    Adam Pettyjohn	0	1	3	1	0	0	1	0	4.0	11	9	9	2	2	1	1	0	20.25	3.25
    Robert Manuel	0	0	3	0	0	0	1	0	4.3	5	0	0	0	1	2	0	0	0.00	1.38
    Jon Adkins	1	0	4	0	0	0	0	0	3.7	4	1	1	1	3	3	0	0	2.45	1.91
    Josh Roenicke	0	0	16	0	0	0	2	0	16.3	19	7	7	0	6	20	1	1	3.86	1.53
    Mike Gosling	2	0	24	0	0	0	7	0	34.3	43	24	20	6	29	33	2	1	5.24	2.10
    TOTALS		134	142	1309	239	10	4	328	74	2486.0	2650	1357	1238	324	933	1953	123	86	4.48	1.44

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    Re: Walt Jocketty vs. Wayne Krivsky

    Krivsky. Unfortunately he didn't have free reign on roster moves or player signings. Jocketty isn't built to succeed in this market with this team.

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    Re: Walt Jocketty vs. Wayne Krivsky

    Krivsky was a master a dumpster diving. He just got too enamoured with the junk he acquired (or inherited) and wanted to keep them forever at a premium price.

    Jocketty hasn't shown me much so far.

    A wash for me. They were both hamstrung by a limited budget and very little to build off.
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    Re: Walt Jocketty vs. Wayne Krivsky

    Quote Originally Posted by oneupper View Post
    Krivsky was a master a dumpster diving. He just got too enamoured with the junk he acquired (or inherited) and wanted to keep them forever at a premium price.

    Jocketty hasn't shown me much so far.

    A wash for me. They were both hamstrung by a limited budget and very little to build off.
    I wouldn't be so sure 'keeping' everyone was Krivsky's call.

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    Re: Walt Jocketty vs. Wayne Krivsky

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    I wouldn't be so sure 'keeping' everyone was Krivsky's call.
    Yeah. You could add "ownership" to the obstacles facing both WK and WJ.
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    Re: Walt Jocketty vs. Wayne Krivsky

    I think Krivsky was a better fit for the team. He had a solid scouting background and could identify talent on the cheap if possible, and had been with organizations charged to do more with less. Walt is used to being able to spend mountains of cash, and if he swings and misses on a few it's no big deal. He doesn't have the luxury with the Reds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    I wouldn't be so sure 'keeping' everyone was Krivsky's call.
    Exactly. Krivsky was going about the proper rebuilding process, when BCast started injecting his 'win now' operating procedures everytime the team neared .500 baseball. Krivsky and Mackanin were the proper tandem to lead the team through a protracted rebuild and development mode, but ownership wanted instant contention, and they weren't a good fit for that mode of operation. The result was a series of desperation trades, desperation reaches on FA acquisitions, and ill-advised extensions based upon the premise that we were just a piece of the puzzle away.

    They were both subsequently jettisoned in favor of 'big name' management (Dusty and Walt), which has predictably fared even worse, because style over substance is the type of simplistic criterion that BCast believes equates to 'win now.'

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    Slurpees or Slushee's, Sunshine or Nabisco, Bert or Ernie.

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    Re: Walt Jocketty vs. Wayne Krivsky

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Slurpees or Slushee's, Sunshine or Nabisco, Bert or Ernie.
    Reds or Pirates.

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    Reds or Pirates.
    or Royals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highlifeman21 View Post
    or Royals.
    Or Long Island Ducks.

    Seriously, I went to a Ducks game this year. They have several former major league players who could probably field a better lineup than the one the Reds are currently running out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
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    That's odd coming from Jocketty's biggest supporter.
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    Re: Walt Jocketty vs. Wayne Krivsky

    Quote Originally Posted by cincrazy View Post
    Or Long Island Ducks.

    Seriously, I went to a Ducks game this year. They have several former major league players who could probably field a better lineup than the one the Reds are currently running out there.
    Was it this year for the Long Island Ducks that Jose Offerman used a bat to hit a pitcher after charging the mound?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highlifeman21 View Post
    Was it this year for the Long Island Ducks that Jose Offerman used a bat to hit a pitcher after charging the mound?
    Hmm.... Just googled it, actually happened in 2007 to my surprise, thought it may have been this year. He's got nothing on Izzy Alcantara though.


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