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    Well there are substantiated rumors that someone actually got from the team. Then there are rumors that have no basis at all. Grandal seems to fall into that second category.
    My guess is that the Royals have been in heavy watching Grandal. That stuff is plain for all to see. It's that time of year, Doug.
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    Re: 2010 MLB draft

    A bit off the wall, but was just reminded of it. I thought I read a year ago that Tracy Jones' son Hunter was going to be a fairly highly rated prospect in this years draft (like top 5 rounds) Is that still the case?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    My guess is that the Royals have been in heavy watching Grandal. That stuff is plain for all to see. It's that time of year, Doug.
    Can't remember who (Goldstein, Manuel, Bader...someone in the prospect world) mentioned on Twitter a couple of weeks ago that the Mets were also looking at Grandal in the 1st round.

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    Re: 2010 MLB draft

    Yahoo/Rivals has their mock draft up

    They have the Reds taking HS OF Brentz

    http://highschool.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1081616

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    12. Cincinnati Reds
    The Pick: Bryce Brentz, OF, Middle Tennessee
    The Buzz: Brentz may be a bit of a reach at No. 12 with a slightly down junior season but his short, compact swing is something that will lead to his big league success. He isn't overly big and has decent speed, but that will not be a major part of his game as he develops.

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    Re: 2010 MLB draft

    Quote Originally Posted by jmcclain19 View Post
    Yahoo/Rivals has their mock draft up

    They have the Reds taking HS OF Brentz

    http://highschool.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1081616

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    I thought he was a college bat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo View Post
    I thought he was a college bat?
    He is. The same site ranks him as the 18th best college player available. Doesn't seem like great value at #12 overall.

    Rivals also projects Christian Colon to stay at SS as he progresses.
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    He is. The same site ranks him as the 18th best college player available. Doesn't seem like great value at #12 overall.
    Baseball America had Mike Leake as the 9th best righthander in last year's draft. It's very inexact. All we really know is that Brentz appears to be a 2nd echelon first round talent (there's Harper and Taillon and maybe a handful of big arms in the top echelon, it seems). Whether he goes 10th or 30th doesn't say anything conclusive about him or the the wisdom of the choice, in my opinion.

    I like his bat speed -- looks wicked.
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    He's also hit well in international competition, plays a solid OF, has a very good arm, and decent speed.

    But yeah, bat speed and pitch recognition are Brentz's best tools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    Baseball America had Mike Leake as the 9th best righthander in last year's draft. It's very inexact. All we really know is that Brentz appears to be a 2nd echelon first round talent (there's Harper and Taillon and maybe a handful of big arms in the top echelon, it seems). Whether he goes 10th or 30th doesn't say anything conclusive about him or the the wisdom of the choice, in my opinion.

    I like his bat speed -- looks wicked.
    Agree that you can't get caught up in rankings in the baseball draft as it is an inexact science. However, I don't like Brentz nearly as much as some of the other choices.

    Then again, the only Reds first round pick in the last ten years that I've been really happy with at the time was Homer Bailey.

    If you asked me to look at the Reds' last 10 first round picks and tell you who I really wanted on draft day, it would look something like this:

    2002: Gruler (S.Kazmir)
    2003: Wagner (L.Milledge, J.Allison)
    2004: Bailey (Bailey)
    2005. Bruce (C.Maybin)
    2006. Stubbs (A.Miller, C.Kershaw)
    2007. Mesoraco (R.Porcello, M.Dominguez, J.Heyward)
    2008: Alonso (J.Smoak, G.Beckham)
    2009. Leake (G.Green, T.Matzek)

    Hey, you can't be right about everything...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    2002: Gruler (S.Kazmir)
    2003: Wagner (L.Milledge)
    2004: Bailey (Bailey)
    2005. Bruce (C.Maybin)
    2006. Stubbs (A.Miller, C.Kershaw)
    2007. Mesoraco (R.Porcello, M.Dominguez, J.Heyward)
    2008: Alonso (J.Smoak, G.Beckham)
    2009. Leake (G.Green, T.Matzek)

    Hey, you can't be right about everything...
    More than half the time, it looks like it was impossible for the Reds to get who you wanted with the first pick. Personally, I'm happy with pretty much every pick of the Reds--that is, until they bust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    More than half the time, it looks like it was impossible for the Reds to get who you wanted with the first pick. Personally, I'm happy with pretty much every pick of the Reds--that is, until they bust.
    True, although in each one of those cases the guy I wanted went either the pick or two picks immediately before the Reds choice. These are the guys I wanted coming into the draft (within reasonable expectations), not necessarily when the Reds chose. Still though, I would say that the Reds' first round selections have worked out better than the MLB average over the last 10 years- especially since JimBo was replaced.
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    Jonathan Mayo from MLB.com has some interesting words on Grandal

    http://minors.mlblogs.com/archives/2...i_grandal.html

    Grandal is an interesting one because he's certainly put up the numbers, but I've gotten mixed messages in terms of how much people like him. He is, however, the top catcher in the class and he's going to go pretty high. Will it be Tony Sanchez high? That remains to be seen.

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    The left-handed hitting backstop has feasted off of righties to the tune of .485/.592/.897. Southpaws have been a little more challenging: .328/.488/.508. He's hit .508/.600/.908 away from home, for whatever that's worth. He's a terrific hitter with two outs (.474/.610/.772) and with runners on base (.447/.600/.753).

    At the University of Miami, Grandal plays in the very competitive ACC. So it's worth noting that he seems to rise to the occasion. In out-of-conference games, the catcher has hit .366/.521/.620 in 71 at-bats. Not too shabby, until you compare it with his in-conference numbers: .471/.578/.839.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmcclain19 View Post
    Jonathan Mayo from MLB.com has some interesting words on Grandal

    http://minors.mlblogs.com/archives/2...i_grandal.html
    Sounds like being the top catcher this year is akin to being the top 2nd baseman most years.... lackluster. Grandal as a 2nd rounder would be a risk worth taking. Anywhere before that and I think its a major overdraft.

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    Grandal as a 2nd rounder would be a risk worth taking. Anywhere before that and I think its a major overdraft.
    On what basis are you making this judgment?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    On what basis are you making this judgment?
    On the basis that he may not be able to catch and the basis that his bat won't play at a corner spot and he absolutely won't play up the middle unless he is a catcher where there are legit concerns about his ability to stick back there.


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