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    Some Az Fall League info Showing up

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/winterleagues/?league=afl

    Reds will be on Peoria Saguaros. David Bell will manage. Leake is expected to play. The Hawaiian League move to Arizona fizzled so teams can have one more A baller.

    And the Schedule is out. One of the Saguaros games will be at the new Spring Training facility.
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    Re: Some Az Fall League info Showing up

    From John Fay regarding the AFL.....

    From the Reds (Walt Jocketty talked about trying to get Mike Leake a spot. I'll check on that):

    The Peoria Saguaros club will include manager David Bell and Reds farmhands RHP Logan Ondrusek, LHP Phillippe Valiquette, RHP Sean Watson, IF Yonder Alonso, IF Zack Cozart and OF Chris Heisey.
    I hope they can get Leake in there too.
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    Re: Some Az Fall League info Showing up

    Im sure they will get Leake in there.

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    I don't think it's all that important to have Leake there. He had a very long season at ASU and threw a ton. He'd compete hard in the AFL, trying to prove himself against tough competition, leading to a healthy helping of tough innings. I'd send him to instrux instead and make sure he's strong and well rested for 2010.

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    Re: Some Az Fall League info Showing up

    But, to play Devil's Advocate here, if Leake pitches well, you could make the argument he'd then be ready for AA next season. This, in turn, would cut a year or so off his development curve, meaning he could be ready as early as the beginning of 2011.

    As to the others, I suppose it's obvious Ondrusek will be protected this winter in the Rule V draft. (As he should.) Suprising, though, that Valiquette would be, too. It's put-up-or-shut-up time for all in that list, IMO. Do well and you're in the plans for 2010; do poorly and... Well, just do well.

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    Re: Some Az Fall League info Showing up

    But, to play Devil's Advocate here, if Leake pitches well, you could make the argument he'd then be ready for AA next season. This, in turn, would cut a year or so off his development curve, meaning he could be ready as early as the beginning of 2011.
    I prefer to see relievers in the AFL. I'd only put a starter there if he'd missed significant time during the year. That's not the case with Leake.You hear talk about how guys are tired in the AFL. I see no reason to subject a young starter to that. The season out there is what, 2 months? I don't think the Reds' window to be competitive demands Leake's progress be accelerated by 2 months. This is a little guy who has had a long college season which ended with a bout of tendinitis. The team should err on the side of caution here, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    I prefer to see relievers in the AFL. I'd only put a starter there if he'd missed significant time during the year. That's not the case with Leake.You hear talk about how guys are tired in the AFL. I see no reason to subject a young starter to that. The season out there is what, 2 months? I don't think the Reds' window to be competitive demands Leake's progress be accelerated by 2 months. This is a little guy who has had a long college season which ended with a bout of tendinitis. The team should err on the side of caution here, IMO.
    Disagree.

    Strasburg is playing in the AFL. I think Leake should be as well. He had almost three months off. There's no reason why he can't pitch in the AFL, and assuming he does well, begin next year in Carolina.
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    Re: Some Az Fall League info Showing up

    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    Disagree.

    Strasburg is playing in the AFL. I think Leake should be as well. He had almost three months off. There's no reason why he can't pitch in the AFL, and assuming he does well, begin next year in Carolina.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRM View Post
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    Re: Some Az Fall League info Showing up

    Disagree.

    Strasburg is playing in the AFL. I think Leake should be as well. He had almost three months off. There's no reason why he can't pitch in the AFL, and assuming he does well, begin next year in Carolina.
    Strasburg did not pitch in the College World Series. Strasburg did not finish the season with tendinitis.

    I'm promoting caution. That's all. Lots of invective about Volquez and Cueto pitching in the offseason -- this is quite similar. He's coming off a long season in which he was hurt at the end. He's a little guy. Why rush the kid?

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    Re: Some Az Fall League info Showing up

    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    Strasburg did not pitch in the College World Series. Strasburg did not finish the season with tendinitis.

    I'm promoting caution. That's all. Lots of invective about Volquez and Cueto pitching in the offseason -- this is quite similar. He's coming off a long season in which he was hurt at the end. He's a little guy. Why rush the kid?
    Agreed. Given the curse that is 2009, I wouldn't even let him play catch until spring.

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    Re: Some Az Fall League info Showing up

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    Re: Some Az Fall League info Showing up

    From Fay:

    --The Reds are trying to get top pick Mike Leake into the Arizona Fall League. The rosters were set before he was signed.

    “We’ve got to get approval,” Jocketty said. "We wanted to see where he was as far as pitching after the layoff. Our people think he's good to pitch out there."

    Jocketty expects that the Reds will get it.

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    Re: Some Az Fall League info Showing up

    Doug, that supports our (super secret) theory.....

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    Re: Some Az Fall League info Showing up

    Quote Originally Posted by JaxRed View Post
    Doug, that supports our (super secret) theory.....
    That it would.


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