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    Re: Reds outfield -- 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by LvJ View Post
    Sign Gabe Kapler, Joe Beimel, and John Lackey.

    ???????????????????

    Win World Series.

    Profit.
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    Re: Reds outfield -- 2010

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    If we can only carry 5 of the 7 OF we now have, and I'm not counting Taveras--Bruce, Stubbs, Dickerson, Gomes, Nix, Balentien, McDonald--which two do we drop?
    I'd keep Bruce, Dickerson, Balentien and Gomes. Ideally we'd keep 6. A platoon counterpart for each position. Stubbs could be the CF to pair with Dickerson, but he really needs to go back to AAA and hit IMO (or be dealt in a package for other needs if other teams are as impressed as some of our posters seem to be). Stubbs may just win the shot with a strong finish, but I just don't think he's hit enough at high levels to be trusted with the job full-time and wonder with others if he wouldn't be served better playing full-time in AAA than serving on the short side of a platoon in the bigs. A cheap stopgap to pair with Dickerson (hopefully somebody better than McDonald or Taveras) would be my preference, but lacking alternatives I'd go with McDonald.

    Nix would be the minimum I'd accept to pair with Gomes, but I wonder if they don't need some one who can play the IF as well. I'd like a power guy like Eric Hinske for that role or possibly Juan Francisco could take the job as platoon LF who can play 3B and 1B to help with the roster pinch. I like Dorn better at this point, but Franisco's ability to play 3B may get him a nod. I'd like to see Francisco play winter ball as a LF. I'd probably let Gomes play against some RH if a guy like Francisco becomes the LH half.

    Gomes/Francisco LF
    Dickerson/McDonald CF (With Heisey a possibility if he gets off strong in 2010 and McD struggles)
    Bruce/Balentien RF

    Taveras - DFA, Nix non-tendered, Stubbs dealt for other needs.
    Last edited by mth123; 09-06-2009 at 10:16 AM.
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    Re: Reds outfield -- 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by HokieRed View Post
    mth,
    If we can only carry 5 of the 7 OF we now have, and I'm not counting Taveras--Bruce, Stubbs, Dickerson, Gomes, Nix, Balentien, McDonald--which two do we drop?
    Bruce, Stubbs, and Dickerson have options, so we wouldn't necessarily need to drop any of them.

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    Re: Reds outfield -- 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by LvJ View Post
    Sign Gabe Kapler, Joe Beimel, and John Lackey.

    Win World Series.

    Profit.
    Beimel's an enigma, IMO.

    I'm waiting for him to fully turn the corner and realize his potential.

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    Re: Reds outfield -- 2010

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    Re: Reds outfield -- 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlifeman21 View Post
    Beimel's an enigma, IMO.

    I'm waiting for him to fully turn the corner and realize his potential.
    Beimel has been a solid lefty specialist for 4 years running.

    What did/do you expect Beimel to do more than that? He was never considered anything more.

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    Re: Reds outfield -- 2010

    Just noticed Balentien's OPS with us has just sneaked north of .800--.803 to be exact. He's looking like a pretty good pick-up.

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    Re: Reds outfield -- 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by HokieRed View Post
    Just noticed Balentien's OPS with us has just sneaked north of .800--.803 to be exact. He's looking like a pretty good pick-up.
    If WT isn't on the team next year, I can see an outfield of

    X, Stubbs, Bruce
    Dickerson, Balentien

    X is either a new guy or Gomes. Or Francisco, Heisey, or Frazier. Or eventually Votto.

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    Re: Reds outfield -- 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman View Post
    Beimel has been a solid lefty specialist for 4 years running.

    What did/do you expect Beimel to do more than that? He was never considered anything more.
    More than a LOOGY.

    I think with his stuff, he'd be able to get more righties out, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

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    Re: Reds outfield -- 2010

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    More than a LOOGY.
    Isn't that a "Boston" song?

    "Bring on Rod Stupid!"

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    Re: Reds outfield -- 2010

    Joe Strauss of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch believes the Reds might have interest in Rick Ankiel this offseason.

    From Strauss's twitter page:

    Potential landing spot for Ankiel via free agency: Cincinnati
    http://twitter.com/JoeStrauss/status/4510367587

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    Re: Reds outfield -- 2010

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    Joe Strauss of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch believes the Reds might have interest in Rick Ankiel this offseason.

    From Strauss's twitter page:



    http://twitter.com/JoeStrauss/status/4510367587

    I can't remember where I posted it, but I mentioned that a few weeks ago that I could see an Ankiel-Gomes platoon in left.
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    Re: Reds outfield -- 2010

    Is Ankiel a good fielder? Is he expensive? If he's cheap and good, I don't have a problem with the idea of acquiring him. If he's neither, then I say conserve all available resources for a solution at SS and/or SP.
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    Re: Reds outfield -- 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    Is Ankiel a good fielder? Is he expensive? If he's cheap and good, I don't have a problem with the idea of acquiring him. If he's neither, then I say conserve all available resources for a solution at SS and/or SP.
    As a CF, according to UZR, he measures as something around a slightly below average fielder. But as a LF, he would be slightly above average. He would not likely be worth a lot of money, but if he signed for a decent price, it would be an OK signing.
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    Ankiel

    whats the deal with Ankiel? He is having a terrible year (OPS+ of 76). Is he hurt? why the big falloff from his solid 2007 & 2008?
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