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  • His current .760 OPS is just fine

    22 24.72%
  • Would like to see a higher OBP, even at expense of some SLG

    51 57.30%
  • Would like to see the SLG continue to climb

    2 2.25%
  • Not satisfied with a .760 OPS

    4 4.49%
  • Slightly lower than .760 would still be justifed by defense

    10 11.24%
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Thread: Drew Stubbs

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    Re: Drew Stubbs

    The numbers I've seen suggest that GABP has a very significant HR boost (115-120) and a very significant 3B depression (60-70) but doesn't do much either way for doubles.
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    Re: Drew Stubbs

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    The numbers I've seen suggest that GABP has a very significant HR boost (115-120) and a very significant 3B depression (60-70) but doesn't do much either way for doubles.
    I agree with that. I'm just wondering if a good portion of that double stat not really being much different is due to the horrible OF defense we've had since GABP was built. I think if a normal OF defense had been employed, I think we'd see some greater variation.
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    Re: Drew Stubbs

    Another excellent catch by Drew Stubbs today, plus he doubled high off the wall in LF. He won't continue hitting homers at a 35 HR pace, but man, he has been fun to watch since coming up.

    Here's video of his catch today:

    http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/media...ent_id=6745493

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    Re: Drew Stubbs

    I agree, OBM. He may not continue hitting at a 35 HR pace, but his power looks legit to me. He's not getting texas leaguers out there. These are shots that he's hitting.
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    Re: Drew Stubbs

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Another excellent catch by Drew Stubbs today, plus he doubled high off the wall in LF. He won't continue hitting homers at a 35 HR pace, but man, he has been fun to watch since coming up.

    Here's video of his catch today:

    http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/media...ent_id=6745493
    Solid grab by Stubbs, but Gomes really needs to work on the celebratory ass slap.

    Almost looked as awkward as Tiger Woods and Steve Williams high fiving.

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    Re: Drew Stubbs

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    He won't continue hitting homers at a 35 HR pace, but man, he has been fun to watch since coming up.
    Probably not, but lets hope he can keep up his 40 HR pace....

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    Re: Drew Stubbs

    Doc Rogers said today that the Reds should trade:

    To the Devil Rays
    Willy Taveras
    Drew Stubbs
    Jay Bruce

    To the Reds
    Carl Crawford
    BJ Upton

    He then went on about a twenty minute tirade about why Drew Stubbs stinks. Mixing stats from the minors with the majors, and declaring that he can't take walks, will never make enough contact, his power is a mirage, and that Chris Dickerson is more athletic.

    Doc Rogers = TRF??
    The Sox traded Bullfrog the only player they've got for Shottenhoffen. Four-eyes Shottenhoffen a utility infielder. They've got a whole team of utility infielders.

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    Re: Drew Stubbs

    Quote Originally Posted by LoganBuck View Post
    Doc Rogers said today that the Reds should trade:

    To the Devil Rays
    Willy Taveras
    Drew Stubbs
    Jay Bruce

    To the Reds
    Carl Crawford
    BJ Upton


    He then went on about a twenty minute tirade about why Drew Stubbs stinks. Mixing stats from the minors with the majors, and declaring that he can't take walks, will never make enough contact, his power is a mirage, and that Chris Dickerson is more athletic.

    Doc Rogers = TRF??
    While I would LOVE for that trade to happen, why in the blue Hell would the Rays do that?

    Granted, Crawford's gonna get expensive for their blood, but why give up on BJ Upton?

    And why would they want Taveras or Stubbs? Hell, while I'm asking questions, why would they want Bruce after his 2009?

    Now if the Reds wanted to get creative, they send a slew of players (including Alonso) to the Rays for Carlos Pena, and we get serious about this experiment of Votto playing LF.

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    Re: Drew Stubbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlifeman21 View Post
    Now if the Reds wanted to get creative, they send a slew of players (including Alonso) to the Rays for Carlos Pena, and we get serious about this experiment of Votto playing LF.
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    Re: Drew Stubbs

    never mind. not worth it.
    Last edited by TRF; 09-20-2009 at 11:31 PM.
    Suck it up cupcake.

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    Re: Drew Stubbs

    Another drew stubbs thread come and gone.

    Sigh.
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    Re: Drew Stubbs

    Quote Originally Posted by LoganBuck View Post
    Doc Rogers said today that the Reds should trade:

    To the Devil Rays
    Willy Taveras
    Drew Stubbs
    Jay Bruce

    To the Reds
    Carl Crawford
    BJ Upton

    He then went on about a twenty minute tirade about why Drew Stubbs stinks. Mixing stats from the minors with the majors, and declaring that he can't take walks, will never make enough contact, his power is a mirage, and that Chris Dickerson is more athletic.

    Doc Rogers = TRF??
    i think that's kind of unfair to TRF. yes, he is skeptical of Stubbs and has pointed to his reasons, which i would say at this point the majority of people don't agree with him on. but, he is a fair guy. when stubbs produces, he notes that and e-pats him on the back. like all of us, he wants the reds (and stubbs) to succeed. so i don't get the doc rogers comparison.

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    Re: Drew Stubbs

    Quote Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1 View Post
    i think that's kind of unfair to TRF. yes, he is skeptical of Stubbs and has pointed to his reasons, which i would say at this point the majority of people don't agree with him on. but, he is a fair guy. when stubbs produces, he notes that and e-pats him on the back. like all of us, he wants the reds (and stubbs) to succeed. so i don't get the doc rogers comparison.
    It was just meant to be a comment on the uncanny resemblance to the arguments that TRF has been making about Stubbs for years.

    There wasn't any malice intended.
    The Sox traded Bullfrog the only player they've got for Shottenhoffen. Four-eyes Shottenhoffen a utility infielder. They've got a whole team of utility infielders.

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    Re: Drew Stubbs

    Quote Originally Posted by LoganBuck View Post
    It was just meant to be a comment on the uncanny resemblance to the arguments that TRF has been making about Stubbs for years.

    There wasn't any malice intended.
    except for the part where I have NEVER said he can't take a walk.

    I'm sure they are dead on.

    I've stated that unless he starts hitting for power, and the HR's seem to be there though the doubles aren't showing up, which is kinda odd, that his OBP would suffer.

    it's getting better, but overall his MLB OBP kinda blows.

    If someone wants to disagree with me, fine. But don't make stuff up that i never said. And since I have been the loudest anti Stubbs guy, ask the biggest pro Stubbs guy (dougdirt) If I ever said he couldn't take a walk.
    Suck it up cupcake.

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    Re: Drew Stubbs

    Quote Originally Posted by TRF View Post
    except for the part where I have NEVER said he can't take a walk.

    I'm sure they are dead on.

    I've stated that unless he starts hitting for power, and the HR's seem to be there though the doubles aren't showing up, which is kinda odd, that his OBP would suffer.

    it's getting better, but overall his MLB OBP kinda blows.

    If someone wants to disagree with me, fine. But don't make stuff up that i never said. And since I have been the loudest anti Stubbs guy, ask the biggest pro Stubbs guy (dougdirt) If I ever said he couldn't take a walk.
    Okay, sorry. Please respond to my PM next time you want to vent at me.

    I never said you said all that stuff word for word.
    The Sox traded Bullfrog the only player they've got for Shottenhoffen. Four-eyes Shottenhoffen a utility infielder. They've got a whole team of utility infielders.


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