Look, I'm not sold that this guy is everyday material. I think he needs to make more contact and hit a curveball every now and then. But I'm not the least bit concerned that power is a problem. He was never signed to be a cleanup hitter anyway. Your 100s of posts on this seems unwarranted and you're looking more and more silly with every extra base hit he gets.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge." -- Albert Einstein
"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda
I think that's at least part (possibly a big part) of why they dealt Kazmir. Kazmir, Iwamura, Percival, Bradford, and Springer accounted for $20 million this year in payroll. Kazmir and Percival are already gone and the others have contracts that are up after this year. With those players off the books I was thinking they'd be able to pick up the 2010 option on Crawford and then play it by ear. But who knows with less attendance/revenue.
They really need to deal Burrell (even if they have to throw in a couple million) and find a 1st baseman to take over for Pena cuz I doubt they'll keep him after 2010. Dealing Alonso to them would make sense but noway if we got Pena. It would have to make sense for both teams financially. I'd much rather see the Reds deal Alonso + for one of their young pitchers (Davis, Hellickson, McGee, etc) and Brignac.
I also heard the deal that "Doc Rodgers" proposed. I thought he included Cordero in the deal. But anyway, it made me laugh.
My hope is that Taveras is gone by April, doesn't matter how, and that center is left to Stubbs and Dickerson.
"Now that's a real shame when folks be throwin' away a perfectly good white boy like that."
For about the past couple years many have suggested including Stubbs in a trade. They have considered him a throw in piece and a person that wouldn't hurt if he was gone. The more and more PT Stubbs gets, the more he shows the has the ability to be a very good CF. Stubbs is my answer to the CF position for the next handful of years. His power looks legit and his walk rate is improving. It finally looks like the Reds have a great defensive CF whose offensive game may be an asset to the club. If Stubbs can post a .350 OBP while hitting 20 Hrs a year he would be a very good CF.
Can you define what you mean by power?I want to see him show power for 1 full season
From what I have seen, and this ridiculously hot September notwithstanding, Stubbs is more of a .730 OPS guy, and possibly worse. If the optimists want to define his ceiling as Cameron, what's his floor? I say it's Corey Patterson. Similar D, both prone to lots of K's. Stubbs has a better ability (by far) to take a walk, both contact challenged. Not a perfect comp, but it is still a pretty low floor.
I am so tired of HOPING for more from Reds prospects when all the numbers say meh. I was on the Tyler Pelland bandwagon for what... 4 years? I thought both Pauly and Gardner would come back healthy. I thought this was the breakout year for Dorn. It really is time to accept a few things.
- the Reds aren't that deep in either pitching or positional talent
- the Reds scouting and development departments don't seem to mesh
- the reds have only developed 2 successful position players in the last 10 years (Votto and Dunn)
- and just 1 starting pitcher (Cueto) and he still has question marks.
I'm sick of settling. I'm sick of devoting time to watch this team flounder in June because of stupid mistakes in the off season that 90% of this board howled about. All I want is the best team on the field, and the best minds running that team.
And that hasn't been the case in over a decade, not since JimBo didn't suck. And even then the ownership was hurting the team.
So, .290/.380/.420 ish A little speed, don't care too much about gobs of SB's, but scoring from 1st on a double is nice. 65-70 or more BB's. 17-25 HR's with spurts of 30 every now and then.
Suck it up cupcake.
I'll take a chance on the Rays' sloppy seconds.
Although I'm sure I would easily get pissed off watching balls go over Upton's head in CF b/c he plays too damn shallow and thinks he can break back and catch stuff over his head.
Stubbs isn't a 20 HR guy, but I'm hoping more than anything that he can get his OBP North of .350 so that he does actually provide some offensive value and we can put his offensive game in the asset category.
If Stubbs doesn't improve his OBP, we'll watch that SLG disappear as well, and then he'll just be a rangey gloveman. Whoopie.
Rangey gloveman with no bat = Corey Patterson
So, if Stubbs does not reach this bar, one you never would have anticipated he could reach, you'll be dissatisfied with his play?So, .290/.380/.420 ish A little speed, don't care too much about gobs of SB's, but scoring from 1st on a double is nice. 65-70 or more BB's. 17-25 HR's with spurts of 30 every now and then.
All of this seems most obvious when we kick around hypothetical trades on RZ, or when we're grading trades that include prospects when the Reds actually make them. That same fanbase that expects the prospects to be better than they can never wants to trade prospects, or wants to only trade prospects that most of us have never heard of, or when we infrequently do trade prospects, that part of the fanbase is up in arms that we just gave away the future.
I've long been a proponent of trading prospects for proven talent, and my position becomes more entrenched as the Reds continue to not develop young talent. My logic is pretty simple:
If we can't develop young talent, why hang onto these guys? If other teams want them and feel they can develop them, and have some proven MLB talent that can help us, and they'll part with that MLB talent, then it seems like a no-brainer to me.
Part of me also thinks that the reason we don't trade prospects to other teams for MLB talent is that the other teams know that our prospects aren't as good as we think they are.
Nothing like hanging onto our Fool's Gold, hoping it becomes the real thing.