Turn Off Ads?

View Poll Results: What do you want to see from Stubbs going forward?

Voters
89. You may not vote on this poll
  • His current .760 OPS is just fine

    22 24.72%
  • Would like to see a higher OBP, even at expense of some SLG

    51 57.30%
  • Would like to see the SLG continue to climb

    2 2.25%
  • Not satisfied with a .760 OPS

    4 4.49%
  • Slightly lower than .760 would still be justifed by defense

    10 11.24%
Page 31 of 32 FirstFirst ... 21272829303132 LastLast
Results 451 to 465 of 470

Thread: Drew Stubbs

  1. #451
    Member redsfandan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Posts
    3,578

    Re: Drew Stubbs

    LOL yeah maybe. It's up to them though.
    "Now that's a real shame when folks be throwin' away a perfectly good white boy like that."

  2. Turn Off Ads?
  3. #452
    The Boss dougdirt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    35,326

    Re: Drew Stubbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlifeman21 View Post
    You didn't want us to take Stubbs. We all remember that. Since it happened, you've championed him and been one of his, if not the biggest, cheerleaders. It's almost like you're staking your reputation on you being right about Stubbs.
    I don't feel that way. I have just been tired of some labeling him a bust since day 1 without actually giving him a chance to be his own player and have defended him since then in regards to that thought process.

    As for Mesoraco, you've also greatly warmed to him, and defend him to detractors on a regular basis.
    Because there are good things with Mesoraco that are being overlooked because of his weaknesses.

    Stubbs' D is what'll keep him @ the MLB level. His bat will be what will lead him back to AAA.
    Which is it? His glove keeps him here or his bat supposedly will send him to AAA.... those are two very different things.
    Last edited by dougdirt; 09-26-2009 at 12:56 AM.

  4. #453
    Titanic Struggles Caveat Emperor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    The 513
    Posts
    12,642

    Re: Drew Stubbs

    Quote Originally Posted by TRF View Post
    Face facts. You have never been critical of a Reds' 1st round pick, IMO because you are afraid of losing the access you have to the Reds minor leaguers, at least the ones you like.
    Really, this comment can apply to most any beat writer or reporter. The only people who lob grenades regularly are the ones who've been around forever and think they're bulletproof (Brennaman), national media (Olney, Carroll, etc.), and radio guys who never go into the clubhouse (think Andy Furman).

    Having said that, I think we could all use a step back -- nobody's going to win a medal for being "right" about what Drew Stubbs turns into. I'm fairly certain Doug isn't going to make money for sticking with the kid through some lean years in the low minors, and I'm damn sure nobody will get a pat on the back for projecting a prospect to fail and being right.

    It's a debate -- let's not make it personal.
    Last edited by Caveat Emperor; 09-26-2009 at 02:46 AM.
    Championships Matter.
    23 Years and Counting...

  5. #454
    Member SMcGavin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Indianapolis, IN
    Posts
    1,483

    Re: Drew Stubbs

    I think Stubbs has a lot more trade value than Dickerson. Not saying to give him away but if you can use him to solve the problems at SS or C (or even LF if it's the right guy), I'd jump on it.

  6. #455
    The Big Dog mth123's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    14,796

    Re: Drew Stubbs

    Quote Originally Posted by SMcGavin View Post
    I think Stubbs has a lot more trade value than Dickerson. Not saying to give him away but if you can use him to solve the problems at SS or C (or even LF if it's the right guy), I'd jump on it.
    Yep, Been saying it for over a year now.
    "All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH

    Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS

  7. #456
    Vampire Weekend @Bernie's camisadelgolf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Cincinnati, OH
    Posts
    11,434

    Re: Drew Stubbs

    My bold prediction is that Chris Dickerson never goes a single year in his career without going on the DL. I think Drew Stubbs will have several trips to the DL, too, but I think he's significantly more durable than CD over the long haul.

  8. #457
    The Big Dog mth123's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    14,796

    Re: Drew Stubbs

    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    My bold prediction is that Chris Dickerson never goes a single year in his career without going on the DL. I think Drew Stubbs will have several trips to the DL, too, but I think he's significantly more durable than CD over the long haul.
    Could be right about that. But Dickerson/Heisey would be a cheap platoon until Yorman is ready. Fellhauer may take Dickerson's spot in a couple years before CD gets too expensive.

    Stubbs has obviously impressed and he's playing like Joe Dimaggio, but I still don't expect him to be much better than a Dickerson/Heisey platoon over the next few years. If you can sub those guys and fix another part of the team that is broken, why not?
    "All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH

    Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS

  9. #458
    Member SMcGavin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Indianapolis, IN
    Posts
    1,483

    Re: Drew Stubbs

    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    My bold prediction is that Chris Dickerson never goes a single year in his career without going on the DL. I think Drew Stubbs will have several trips to the DL, too, but I think he's significantly more durable than CD over the long haul.
    That's a legitimate concern. I don't remember Dickerson being a injury-prone guy in the minors, though I could be wrong about that. I do think, if both are healthy, that Dickerson is going to be the better hitter in 2010. They are really such similar players though that it doesn't make a ton of sense to have both on the roster. Good outfield depth is nice to have, but I'd rather have a decent starting shortstop.

  10. #459
    Vavasor TRF's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2000
    Location
    Amarillo, TX
    Posts
    13,429

    Re: Drew Stubbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor View Post
    Really, this comment can apply to most any beat writer or reporter. The only people who lob grenades regularly are the ones who've been around forever and think they're bulletproof (Brennaman), national media (Olney, Carroll, etc.), and radio guys who never go into the clubhouse (think Andy Furman).

    Having said that, I think we could all use a step back -- nobody's going to win a medal for being "right" about what Drew Stubbs turns into. I'm fairly certain Doug isn't going to make money for sticking with the kid through some lean years in the low minors, and I'm damn sure nobody will get a pat on the back for projecting a prospect to fail and being right.

    It's a debate -- let's not make it personal.
    hey, I was out of this thread. stated it was my last post at one point. I was told what i need to discuss by him, not the other way around.
    Suck it up cupcake.

  11. #460
    The Boss dougdirt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    35,326

    Re: Drew Stubbs

    Quote Originally Posted by TRF View Post
    hey, I was out of this thread. stated it was my last post at one point. I was told what i need to discuss by him, not the other way around.
    Except it was Highlifeman21 who brought you out of hibernation on the thread when he said you have shown something that you clearly hadn't. I just refuted the statement made by highlifeman with the data showing how it was incorrect and then you came back into the thread. Yeah, I did tell you that you both should stop making a false statement about it though.

  12. #461
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Location
    Calgary, Alberta, aka, the most prosperous city in the world.
    Posts
    10,652

    Re: Drew Stubbs

    Dickerson is a passable CF, but he's not in Stubb's league.

    Stubb's fielding give's him a huge upside if he hits a bit.

    We need to see if Stubb's hits enough to play CF on a regular basis.

    I think it's crazy to shop Stubbs when he could be the answer to one of our question marks.

  13. #462
    Member VR's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2000
    Location
    Vancouver, Wa
    Posts
    8,585

    Re: Drew Stubbs

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    Dickerson is a passable CF, but he's not in Stubb's league.

    Stubb's fielding give's him a huge upside if he hits a bit.

    We need to see if Stubb's hits enough to play CF on a regular basis.

    I think it's crazy to shop Stubbs when he could be the answer to one of our question marks.
    Bingo.
    Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand

  14. #463
    High five! nate's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Irvine, CA
    Posts
    6,976

    Re: Drew Stubbs

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    Dickerson is a passable CF, but he's not in Stubb's league.

    Stubb's fielding give's him a huge upside if he hits a bit.

    We need to see if Stubb's hits enough to play CF on a regular basis.

    I think it's crazy to shop Stubbs when he could be the answer to one of our question marks.
    Yeah. I'm happy with Dickerson spelling one of the starters and being a late-inning D replacement. I would reckon a late inning defense of Dickerson/Stubbs/Bruce would be satisfyingly good with the leather.
    "Bring on Rod Stupid!"

  15. #464
    Vavasor TRF's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2000
    Location
    Amarillo, TX
    Posts
    13,429

    Re: Drew Stubbs

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Except it was Highlifeman21 who brought you out of hibernation on the thread when he said you have shown something that you clearly hadn't. I just refuted the statement made by highlifeman with the data showing how it was incorrect and then you came back into the thread. Yeah, I did tell you that you both should stop making a false statement about it though.
    You said i need to stop talking about something.

    You don't get to do that. period.
    Suck it up cupcake.

  16. #465
    Member cincrazy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    South Vienna, OH
    Posts
    4,379

    Re: Drew Stubbs

    I think it's time to cue the Barney theme song.


Turn Off Ads?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Board Moderators may, at their discretion and judgment, delete and/or edit any messages that violate any of the following guidelines: 1. Explicit references to alleged illegal or unlawful acts. 2. Graphic sexual descriptions. 3. Racial or ethnic slurs. 4. Use of edgy language (including masked profanity). 5. Direct personal attacks, flames, fights, trolling, baiting, name-calling, general nuisance, excessive player criticism or anything along those lines. 6. Posting spam. 7. Each person may have only one user account. It is fine to be critical here - that's what this board is for. But let's not beat a subject or a player to death, please.

Thank you, and most importantly, enjoy yourselves!


RedsZone.com is a privately owned website and is not affiliated with the Cincinnati Reds or Major League Baseball


Contact us: Boss | GIK | BCubb2003 | dabvu2498 | Gallen5862 | LexRedsFan | Plus Plus | RedlegJake | redsfan1995 | The Operator | Tommyjohn25