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    Re: Cordero for Upton?

    Quote Originally Posted by nate View Post
    Aaron Harang rhp
    4 years/$36.5M (2007-10), plus 2011 club option

    • 4 years/$36.5M (2007-10), plus 2011 club option
      • re-signed by Cincinnati 2/07 (avoided arbitration, $5.5M-$4.25M)
      • 07:$4.25M, 08:$6.75M, 09:$11M, 10:$12.5M, 11:$12.75M ($2M buyout)
      • 2011 option increases to $13M with 210 IP in 2010
      • if traded, 2011 option becomes mutual option at $14M ($2.5M buyout)

    • 1 year/$2.35M (2006)
      • re-signed by Cincinnati 1/06 (avoided arbitration)

    • 1 year/$0.44M (2005)
    • 1 year/$0.36M (2004)
    • agents: Levinson brothers
    • ML service: 6.061

    Bronson Arroyo rhp
    2 years/$25M (2009-10), plus 2011 club option

    • 2 years/$25M (2009-10), plus 2011 club option
      • signed extension with Cincinnati 2/07
      • $2.5M signing bonus (paid 2008)

      • 09:$9.5M, 10:$11M, 11:$11M club option ($2M buyout)
      • 2011 option may increase to $13M based on IP
      • agreed to give up 2008 performance bonuses as part of deal

    • 3 years/$11.25M (2006-08)
      • re-signed by Boston 1/06 (avoided arbitration, $4.2M-$2.95M)

      • $0.75M signing bonus

      • 06:$2.75M, 07:$3.8M, 08:$3.95M
      • $0.325M performance bonus with 210 IP in 2008
      • acquired by Cincinnati in trade from Boston 3/06, with Red Sox paying $1.5M to Reds

    • 1 year/$1.85M (2005)
      • re-signed by Boston 1/05 (avoided arbitration)

    • 1 year/$0.3325M (2004)
    • agent: Gregg Clifton, Terry Bross, Gaylord Sports Management
    • ML service: 6.150
    That is the right way to lay that out. Nice work.
    Thank you.

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    Re: Cordero for Upton?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spring~Fields View Post
    That is the right way to lay that out. Nice work.
    Thank you.
    It's just a C&P from Cot's.
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    Re: Cordero for Upton?

    Quote Originally Posted by Topcat View Post
    In a minute I trade Cordero for Upton, never would happen but dang some fool put it in print thus I had to comment
    Sorry, this fool should have made the title Cordero and Hanigan for Upton, but I thought people would read the whole post before commenting. :

    And I mentioned that I wasn't sure about how the money would play out, and offered the option of Masset instead of Cordero, if that was an issue. And remember that the reason why the Rays are interested in moving Upton is because he is due for a big raise this offseason. He should make at least $5M in arbitration next season.
    "Imagination is more important than knowledge." -- Albert Einstein

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    Re: Cordero for Upton?

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRedsFan View Post
    Getting rid of CoCo would make my day. Why? Because he eats up so much of the resources we need to improve the club. One of Krivsky's biggest blunders was signing a so-called elite closer for a team who hadn't had a winning season in forever. Look at the Cardinals. They chose a Reds castoff as their closer, but that's not the point.

    The point is there are a lot of pitchers who could close for the Reds for a lot less money. I hope they explore these options. When and if this team gets near to contending, then let's explore the high priced closer. Until then, Massett will do.
    I understand your frustration with the deal. But I don't think you're doing Cordero justice to call him a "so-called elite closer." He's been very, very good for us, and this season he's been as close to elite as you can get without being Mo Rivera.

    Nothing wrong with having CoCo on your team. Something big time wrong with having CoCo on your team with this payroll at that price.

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    Re: Cordero for Upton?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jpup View Post
    The Reds have very few good players. Cordero is one of them. Why trade him?
    bad owners have made Reds fans insane.
    2015, baby!

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    Re: Cordero for Upton?

    Quote Originally Posted by princeton View Post
    bad owners have made Reds fans insane.
    That may be true but bad decisions have been made by the Reds that should be mitigated if possible.
    "This isnít stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner

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