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    Reds Top 40 prospects (2009) - Who should appear on first ballot?

    I'm planning on starting the Redszone top 40 prospect polls later this week or early next week and before I start I'd like see who Redszone thinks should be on the first ballot. I'm going to try to limit the first poll to roughly 8-10 choices. Guys like Alonso and Frazier are obvious choices but I'm interested in seeing who else is nominated as a realistic option on the first poll.

    Below is our top 40 from last offseason. I bolded the names of prospects who lost their prospect eligibility or are no longer in the Reds organization.

    Prospect #1 - Yonder Alonso
    Prospect #2 - Todd Frazier
    Prospect #3 - Neftali Soto
    Prospect #4 - Drew Stubbs
    Prospect #5 - Chris Valaika
    Prospect #6 - Kyle Lotzkar
    Prospect #7 - Daryl Thompson
    Prospect #8 - Juan Francisco
    Prospect #9 - Juan Duran
    Prospect #10 - Chris Dickerson
    Prospect #11 - Devin Mesoraco
    Prospect #12 - Danny Dorn
    Prospect #13 - Yorman Rodriguez
    Prospect #14 - Zach Stewart
    Prospect #15 - Josh Roenicke

    Prospect #16 - Ramon Ramirez
    Prospect #17 - Zack Cozart
    Prospect #18 - Matt Maloney
    Prospect #19 - Carlos Fisher
    Prospect #20 - Chris Heisey
    Prospect #21 - Ryan Hanigan
    Prospect #22 - Dallas Buck
    Prospect #23 - Adam Rosales
    Prospect #24 - Alex Buchholz
    Prospect #25 - Travis Wood
    Prospect #26 - Jeremy Horst
    Prospect #27 - Pedro Viola
    Prospect #28 - Evan Hildenbrandt
    Prospect #29 - Juan Carlos Sulbaran
    Prospect #30 - Sam Lecure
    Prospect #31 - Robert Manuel
    Prospect #32 - Sean Henry
    Prospect #33 - Danny Ray Herrera
    Prospect #34 - Sean Watson
    Prospect #35 - Ismael Guillon
    Prospect #36 - Ben Jukich
    Prospect #37 - Junior Arias
    Prospect #38 - Jordan Smith
    Prospect #39 - Dave Sappelt
    Prospect #40 - Phil Valiquette
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    Re: Reds Top 40 prospects (2009) - Who should appear on first ballot?

    Alonso
    Frazier
    Wood
    Francisco
    Cozart
    Soto
    Duran
    Rodriguez
    Heisey
    Thompson

    My top ten choices for the first ballot but it could really be just the first 5, imo.

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    Re: Reds Top 40 prospects (2009) - Who should appear on first ballot?

    My choices in no particular order:

    Yonder Alonso, Yorman Rodriguez, Mike Leake, Todd Frazier, Chris Heisey, Travis Wood, Juan Francisco, Zack Cozart.

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    Re: Reds Top 40 prospects (2009) - Who should appear on first ballot?

    Alonso, Frazier, Yorman Rodriguez, Leake, Heisey, Wood, Francisco, Cozart, Silva, Jacob Johnson and Neftali Soto
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    Re: Reds Top 40 prospects (2009) - Who should appear on first ballot?

    Valaika, Mesoraco, Sulbaran, Dorn should also be on. Maloney if eligible.

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    Re: Reds Top 40 prospects (2009) - Who should appear on first ballot?

    Ondrusek, Rojas and Wiley
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    Re: Reds Top 40 prospects (2009) - Who should appear on first ballot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp View Post
    Alonso, Frazier, Yorman Rodriguez, Leake, Heisey, Wood, Francisco, Cozart, Silva, Jacob Johnson and Neftali Soto
    I'll go with this except I don't know enough about Silva or Johnson.

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    Re: Reds Top 40 prospects (2009) - Who should appear on first ballot?

    It's hard for me to come up with only 10 names. Here are the first 15 that popped in my head (and I'm sure I'm forgetting other that I would consider for the top 10).
    Alonso
    Frazier
    Soto
    Mesoraco
    Duran
    Rodriguez
    Valaika
    Maloney
    Dorn
    Wood
    Lotzkar
    Francisco
    Leake
    Boxberger
    Cozart

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    Re: Reds Top 40 prospects (2009) - Who should appear on first ballot?

    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    Ondrusek, Rojas and Wiley
    I almost always agree with lollipop.

    Other guys who haven't been mentioned who I think should at least be considered in the top half or so of the list:

    Serrano
    Thurman
    Klinker
    Gregorius
    Del Rosario
    Joseph
    Tuttle
    Cline
    Viola
    Fairel

    Guess I'm a pitching guy.

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    Re: Reds Top 40 prospects (2009) - Who should appear on first ballot?

    Jordan Smith was in the top fifteen of BA's Reds prospects last year. I think he was number 13. He was doing ok at AA this year then got hurt. He never gets votes in these polls.

    Not sure where he fits in, but let's keep him in mind.

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    Re: Reds Top 40 prospects (2009) - Who should appear on first ballot?

    Why limit the poll to only 8 or 10 choices? The more options there are the better our results will be. Why don't you get a large group of about 20 prospects and take guys off who don't receive votes two polls in a row?
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    Re: Reds Top 40 prospects (2009) - Who should appear on first ballot?

    Quote Originally Posted by *BaseClogger* View Post
    Why limit the poll to only 8 or 10 choices? The more options there are the better our results will be. Why don't you get a large group of about 20 prospects and take guys off who don't receive votes two polls in a row?
    Well to be honest, are there really even 8-10 choices for the #1 prospect in the system? At best I can see 4 choices in the running for #1.

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    Re: Reds Top 40 prospects (2009) - Who should appear on first ballot?

    First ballot should be a competition between

    Alonso, Leake, Fraizer, Yorman, and Fransisco...and coincidently that is my top 5 in order.

    Those 5 all could have an argument made for them being #1:

    Alonso (High AVG, High OBP, Good SLG)
    Leake (Best pitching prospect in the system)
    Fraizer (Solid, polished all around hitter, and versatile in the field. Probably the best bet to be at least a league average player)
    Yorman (Highest upside of anyone in the system)
    Fransisco (Arguably one of, if not, the best power hitter in the system, with great contact skills for a power hitter)
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    Re: Reds Top 40 prospects (2009) - Who should appear on first ballot?

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Well to be honest, are there really even 8-10 choices for the #1 prospect in the system? At best I can see 4 choices in the running for #1.
    I think its even less than that Doug, but on the whole, I agree.
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    Re: Reds Top 40 prospects (2009) - Who should appear on first ballot?

    I wonder where Zach Stewart would have been ranked.

    Is it me or does it all of a sudden seem like this organization is pretty bare? I'm thinking the system will be ranked somewhere in the 20's by BA next spring. That's down from #14 (2009), #3 (2008), and #12 (2007).

    Maybe it's all that talent that has graduated to the big league level.


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