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Thread: Who is Redszone's #2 prospect?

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #2 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Well, usually they find a way to give the other guy (Frazier) some reps at third too. The entire Frazier defensive position thing has been odd.

    In any event, if JF moves to left field next year, it will be interesting to see where Frazier plays. Whether he'll play second or he'll play third. With the way things have gone for him, could see Frazier behind the plate for all we know.
    Assuming no one is dealt, you could see a Louisville team with:

    Alonso at 1B, Valiaka at 2B, Cozart at SS, Frazier at 3B, Francisco in LF, Heisey in CF and Dorn in RF. Maybe Francisco and Dorn switch since JF supposedly has a strong arm. Wilkin Castillo and Chris Denove are probably the catchers. Not too shabby with future major leaguers of varying projection all around. No retreads at least.
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    Re: Who is Redszone's #2 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Well, usually they find a way to give the other guy (Frazier) some reps at third too. The entire Frazier defensive position thing has been odd.

    In any event, if JF moves to left field next year, it will be interesting to see where Frazier plays. Whether he'll play second or he'll play third. With the way things have gone for him, could see Frazier behind the plate for all we know.
    We won't see him behind the plate. Not enough time.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #2 prospect?

    Here's a quote from Terry Reynolds in July on Todd Frazier:

    "Everybody can't play third base," Reynolds said. "We've got (Edwin Encarnacion), we've got these two. Everyone knows Frazier can play third. It will come down to who can help the Reds the most. The others will have to find other positions."

    http://www.baseballamerica.com/onlin...09/268594.html

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #2 prospect?

    BTW, want do you guys want to do when the polls are close? If two prospects are within five votes then have a runoff? More than five votes? Less than five votes?
    Last edited by OnBaseMachine; 10-17-2009 at 10:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    BTW, want do you guys want to do when the polls are close? If two prospects are within five votes then have a funoff? More than five votes? Less than five votes?
    OBM, what is a funoff? Personally I think 3 or fewer votes should be a runoff. 5 votes is enough to me to say that someone won.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #2 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    OBM, what is a funoff? Personally I think 3 or fewer votes should be a runoff. 5 votes is enough to me to say that someone won.
    LOL. I fixed it.

    Three sounds good to me.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #2 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    LOL. I fixed it.

    Three sounds good to me.
    Yeah I personally like the most votes wins, but I'd be OK with a runoff if it's within 3.
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    Re: Who is Redszone's #2 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Here's a quote from Terry Reynolds in July on Todd Frazier:

    "Everybody can't play third base," Reynolds said. "We've got (Edwin Encarnacion), we've got these two. Everyone knows Frazier can play third. It will come down to who can help the Reds the most. The others will have to find other positions."

    http://www.baseballamerica.com/onlin...09/268594.html
    It is great that the Reds brass feels that Frazier can play 3B but I will remain a bit skeptical until he actually demonstrates that he can do so.

    There is a big difference between having the tools to play the position and actually being able to do so. Frazier came up as a SS and has very little experience at 3B. He may have all of the tools to play 3B but ultimately in order to be successful at the position he is going to need reps. He hasn't gotten them. Instead the Reds have opted to give Francisco the reps at 3B and move Frazier around the diamond, which IMHO has been a disservice to both.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #2 prospect?

    Unless, of course, Francisco works out defensively as a third baseman and Frazier can play multiple positions or second base effectively enough.
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    Re: Who is Redszone's #2 prospect?

    Assuming no one is dealt, you could see a Louisville team with:

    Alonso at 1B, Valiaka at 2B, Cozart at SS, Frazier at 3B, Francisco in LF, Heisey in CF and Dorn in RF. Maybe Francisco and Dorn switch since JF supposedly has a strong arm. Wilkin Castillo and Chris Denove are probably the catchers. Not too shabby with future major leaguers of varying projection all around.
    Pretty darn solid AAA club. Bodes well for the team's ability to transition in position players over the next couple of years. Was reading something about the Twins' model for developing players, and Gardenhire emphasized that they progressed players methodically level by level, allowing those players to gain as much polish as possible before hitting the majors. We could be seeing that same thing come to fruition with this AAA group.
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    Re: Who is Redszone's #2 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Unless, of course, Francisco works out defensively as a third baseman and Frazier can play multiple positions or second base effectively enough.

    I think the Reds believe JF can be a good third baseman, in time, chiefly because of his arm. But he probably won't get the chance because he is still raw defensively, he only has two option years left, and his hitting has taken off. Reds probably have decided JF should move to left field where they can start getting offensive production from him sooner.


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