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    The All Worst Acquisition team

    Watching the NLCS I see Jayson Werth playing for Philly and I'm reminded of how the Reds were looking for a RH Bat in the off-season when he became available. The Reds not only passed but traded for the faded more expensive guy that he replaced (Jeff Conine). So, I put togther a quick all worst acquisition team of the most recent seasons. I've put the initials of the GM to blame after the name of the chosen disaster. In some cases it was the GM who resigned or reacquired the player who is more to blame than the guy who originally brought him in.

    1B - Jeff Conine (WK)
    2B - Tony Womack (DO)
    SS - Royce Clayton (WK)
    3B - Scott Rolen (WJ - because of what they paid to get him)
    LF - Jerry Hairston (WJ - who brought him back)
    CF - Willy Taveras (WJ)
    RF - Quinton McCracken (WK - because they kept him over Cody Ross)
    C - Paul Bako (WK)

    UI - Juan Castro (WK)
    4OF - Corey Patterson (WK)
    PH - John Vander Wal (DO)
    C- Wilkin Castillo (WJ)
    U - Danny Richar (WJ)

    SP - Eric Milton (DO)
    SP - Kirk Saarloos (WK)
    SP - Josh Fogg (WK)
    SP - Ramon Ortiz (DO)
    SP - Dave Williams (DO)
    SW - Joe Mays (WK)
    RP - Gary Majewski (WK)
    RP - Mike Lincoln (WJ)
    RP - Mike Burns (DO)
    RP - Rheal Cormier (WK)
    RP - Mike Stanton (WK)
    RP - Victor Santos (WK)

    No wonder Krivsky spent so much on Cordero. It seems he couldn't fix the bullpen to save his life. I'm sure there are other choices. Chime in.
    Last edited by mth123; 10-15-2009 at 09:32 PM.
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    Re: The All Worst Acquisition team

    Hairston was very useful during his "tenure"....Juan Castro was exactly as advertised as unexciting as it was....and the jury is still WAY out on the Rolen acquisition regardless of the cost....the rest of the list definitely pretty sad

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    nothing wrong with Hairston. He was misused, but injuries caused some of that.
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    Re: The All Worst Acquisition team

    That's a painful list to look at.
    How do we know he's not Mel Torme?

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    Re: The All Worst Acquisition team

    Quote Originally Posted by GADawg View Post
    Hairston was very useful during his "tenure"....Juan Castro was exactly as advertised as unexciting as it was....and the jury is still WAY out on the Rolen acquisition regardless of the cost....the rest of the list definitely pretty sad
    Castro was actually acquired twice. Once by JimBo and once by Wayne.
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    Re: The All Worst Acquisition team

    You know the bullpen is atrocious when Rick White can't crack the first team.

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    Re: The All Worst Acquisition team

    Lots of "WK"s in that bullpen...
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    That is a good list of awful mediocrity.

    I'd honorable mention Buck Coats, Quinton McCracken, Jason Romano, Todd Van Poppel and Tim Hummel (3B)
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    I don't see how Conine was a 'disaster' just because of who we didn't get. He was perfectly fine in his role and played well.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: The All Worst Acquisition team

    Quote Originally Posted by savafan View Post
    That is a good list of awful mediocrity.

    I'd honorable mention Buck Coats, Quinton McCracken, Jason Romano, Todd Van Poppel and Tim Hummel (3B)

    Yeah, but Hummel gave the Reds street cred.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    Yeah, but Hummel gave the Reds street cred.
    True dat
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    Quote Originally Posted by savafan View Post
    I'd honorable mention Buck Coats, Quinton McCracken, Jason Romano, Todd Van Poppel and Tim Hummel (3B)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    I don't see how Conine was a 'disaster' just because of who we didn't get. He was in his role and played well.
    Conine played 1B and had the platoon advantage when he was in there and still only managed an OPS of .729. That's a horrible disadvantage at that position. Add that the Reds actually went out and acquired him at age 41 when assembling younger talent that could jell down the road was direction that the team needed to go. He was a horrible idea that worked out the way horrible ideas usually do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpup View Post
    nothing wrong with Hairston. He was misused, but injuries caused some of that.
    He was a horrible acquisition because he was acquired with the idea of playing SS or being part of a LF platoon. Had he been acquired to share CF with Dickerson he wouldn't be on this list. He's not a bad player but it was a horrible acquisition that was part of a horrible plan involving Willy T in CF and a judy hitting platoon in LF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by savafan View Post
    That is a good list of awful mediocrity.

    I'd honorable mention Buck Coats, Quinton McCracken, Jason Romano, Todd Van Poppel and Tim Hummel (3B)
    I have McCracken on there. Forgot all about Coats, Hummel and Romano but they were more flyers than calculated choices. I'm more evaluating the acquisition than the player. McCraken is on the list because the team made a calculated choice to keep him around while cutting Cody Ross loose. That was a horrible decision. The others were more in the "lets take a look" category but didn't have any real opportunity cost associated with them. Rolen falls in the McCracken category for me. I like Rolen well enough as a player, but IMO there were better things to spend the team's top pitching prospect on and to use its final budget dollars for than a 3B who looks like he's on the wane and with a probable .750 or so OPS. That makes him a horrible acquisition IMO.

    Van Poppel could easily be there. That last pitching spot was not so bad. Nothing wrong with taking a flyer on a guy for cheap when there is nothing better to put in their place so Santos and Mays were much less horrible as acquisitions go than the rest and Van Poppel would seem to be on the level of those two. The others were more calculated "fixes" that were bad ideas from the get go and enough people could see it coming that a MLB GM should have been able to as well.
    Last edited by mth123; 10-16-2009 at 03:27 AM.
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