Turn Off Ads?

View Poll Results: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect?

Voters
151. You may not vote on this poll
  • Brad Boxberger

    0 0%
  • Zack Cozart

    1 0.66%
  • Danny Dorn

    1 0.66%
  • Juan Duran

    0 0%
  • Juan Francisco

    33 21.85%
  • Todd Frazier

    81 53.64%
  • Chris Heisey

    3 1.99%
  • Matt Maloney

    0 0%
  • Devin Mesoraco

    0 0%
  • Yorman Rodriguez

    18 11.92%
  • Neftali Soto

    0 0%
  • Juan Carlos Sulbaran

    0 0%
  • Chris Valaika

    1 0.66%
  • Travis Wood

    13 8.61%
  • other - name him

    0 0%
Page 2 of 11 FirstFirst 123456 ... LastLast
Results 16 to 30 of 152

Thread: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect?

  1. #16
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Posts
    12,776

    Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect?

    FWIW, my guess is that Frazier's name will be prominent in trade talks. Reds just don't seem to know what to do with this guy. This isn't meant as a slap on his ability, he seems like a very consistent right handed hitter, I consider him one of the Reds' three top guys with JF and Alonso.

    But the move for Rolen shows that the Reds really want plus defense at third base. Not just the ability to play third base, but a true third baseman. And Rolen will likely be a Red for two or maybe three more years.

    Oddly, if I were guessing, the guy most likely to stay with the Reds is Francisco. Either Alonso or Votto probably will be traded. I see Frazier as potential trade bait. And I don't see Heisey having the bat as a regular corner outfielder. Stubbs will be the guy who takes CF due to his superb glove.

    I do see Francisco in left field, at least as a platoon.

    Who knows, but I've thought for some time that the Reds were treating Frazier as a trade piece.
    Last edited by Kc61; 10-19-2009 at 11:22 AM.

  2. Turn Off Ads?
  3. #17
    Vavasor TRF's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2000
    Location
    Amarillo, TX
    Posts
    13,084

    Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect?

    Frazier's comp... Todd Walker.

    Yorman's comp... Eric Davis.


    just sayin'
    Suck it up cupcake.

  4. #18
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Posts
    12,776

    Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by TRF View Post
    Frazier's comp... Todd Walker.

    Yorman's comp... Eric Davis.


    just sayin'
    If Yorman gets to .700 OPS at some level, maybe you can start making comps like that. If and when.

  5. #19
    Vavasor TRF's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2000
    Location
    Amarillo, TX
    Posts
    13,084

    Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    If Yorman gets to .700 OPS at some level, maybe you can start making comps like that. If and when.
    He is 16, And I didn't make the comp, scouts did.
    Suck it up cupcake.

  6. #20
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Posts
    12,776

    Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by TRF View Post
    He is 16, And I didn't make the comp, scouts did.

    It's all just way premature. Good athlete who appears to have baseball-type abilities at age 16, great to have.

    Eric Davis? I'll wait on that, thanks.

  7. #21
    Vavasor TRF's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2000
    Location
    Amarillo, TX
    Posts
    13,084

    Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect?

    16 year old playing in the Pioneer League.

    Exactly how often does THAT happen?
    Suck it up cupcake.

  8. #22
    Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    2,157

    Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect?

    umm, yeah, still Yorman for me...
    2010 Mock Draft Selections (picking for Rays)

    Bryce Brentz
    Brandon Workman
    Kris Bryant
    Matt Lipka
    Rick Hague

  9. #23
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Indianapolis
    Posts
    749

    Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by TRF View Post
    Frazier's comp... Todd Walker.

    Yorman's comp... Eric Davis.


    just sayin'
    +1
    If we were voting on who is most likely to help the Reds in the very near future I'd vote for Frazier, but this is best prospect and I'll take Yorman over Frazier every time.
    Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball - Jacques Barzun

  10. #24
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Location
    Shelburne Falls, MA
    Posts
    9,966

    Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect?

    16 year old playing in the Pioneer League.

    Exactly how often does THAT happen?
    I definitely agree that Yorman's performance in the Pioneer League was impressive. However, here's an interesting quote from a recent Gammons piece on ESPN.com:

    Red Sox vice president of international scouting Craig Shipley figures that when a club signs a 16-year-old from the Dominican Republic or Venezuela it takes a minimum of six years to determine whether that player is a legitimate prospect.
    Somewhat sobering to think it may be 5 years before we know if Yorman is legit....
    "Baseball is a very, very complex business. It's more of a people business than most businesses." - Bob Castellini

  11. #25
    Member JaxRed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2000
    Location
    Jacksonville, FL
    Posts
    9,402

    Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect?

    My debate was between Frazier, Yorman and Francisco. I want to see impact guys and I keep thinking that Frazier is going to be solid but not impact. So between the 2 impact guys, I'll go with the one who's on the cusp. Francisco.
    Last edited by JaxRed; 10-19-2009 at 02:58 PM.

  12. #26
    Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Posts
    607

    Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect?

    Frazier.

    I'm not as high on Frazier as some other people, mainly due to ambiguity about where he'll end up on the diamond, but he has been a consistently good hitter at every level and is right on the cusp of the majors. I don't see him ever being an impact player but I could see him OPSing around .800 while playing a bunch of different positions in a role similar to DeRosa or Casey Blake.

    I was tempted to go with Yorman Rodriguez given his immense upside but given his age it is really tough to project what kind of player he might develop into. Maybe he's the next Eric Davis, maybe he'll end up washing out. Only time will tell.

  13. #27
    Vavasor TRF's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2000
    Location
    Amarillo, TX
    Posts
    13,084

    Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by JaxRed View Post
    My debate was between Frazier, Yorman and Francisco. I want to see impact guys and I keep thinking that Frazier is going to be solid but not impact. So between the 2 impact guys, I'll go with the one who's on the cusp. Francisco.
    And that is the best argument I've read so far. Kudos.
    Suck it up cupcake.

  14. #28
    Vavasor TRF's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2000
    Location
    Amarillo, TX
    Posts
    13,084

    Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    I definitely agree that Yorman's performance in the Pioneer League was impressive. However, here's an interesting quote from a recent Gammons piece on ESPN.com:



    Somewhat sobering to think it may be 5 years before we know if Yorman is legit....
    Took Cueto 4 years, to make his MLB debut, but he was a little older, 18 I believe.

    But how many 16 year olds are signed for the amount Yorman was, sought after by several teams? I think he, more than Duran has the best chance to be a star. And the best part is, if he pans out, He'll be Red at the time Bruce is hitting his prime years.
    Suck it up cupcake.

  15. #29
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Posts
    12,776

    Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by TRF View Post
    And that is the best argument I've read so far. Kudos.
    Put another way --

    Francisco will be in the middle of the Reds' lineup when most of these other guys are still in the minor leagues working on their walk rate.

  16. #30
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    4,471

    Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect?

    As an interesting note (to me, at least) that probably means very little, Frazier's apparent election here represents the third straight first-rounder, one for each of the last three drafts. (OK, he was a supplemental first-rounder, behind Mesoraco, but a first-rounder nevertheless.) That pattern suggests . . .

    1) the Reds are doing an excellent job with their highest picks;

    2) they're not doing so hot overall, with very few players stepping up and distinguishing themselves;

    or

    3) the constituency here is heavily swayed by the perceptions that attend first-round draft picks.

    Not sure which it is. But I wouldn't count out No. 3.

    (My guess for the fourth-rated prospect is Yorman, who was of course not drafted but, by dint of tools and hoopla, clearly falls into the same kind of categorization.)

    (For what it's worth, I do like all these players. I'm especially intrigued by Frazier's intangibles.)


Turn Off Ads?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Board Moderators may, at their discretion and judgment, delete and/or edit any messages that violate any of the following guidelines: 1. Explicit references to alleged illegal or unlawful acts. 2. Graphic sexual descriptions. 3. Racial or ethnic slurs. 4. Use of edgy language (including masked profanity). 5. Direct personal attacks, flames, fights, trolling, baiting, name-calling, general nuisance, excessive player criticism or anything along those lines. 6. Posting spam. 7. Each person may have only one user account. It is fine to be critical here - that's what this board is for. But let's not beat a subject or a player to death, please.

Thank you, and most importantly, enjoy yourselves!


RedsZone.com is a privately owned website and is not affiliated with the Cincinnati Reds or Major League Baseball


Contact us: Boss | GIK | BCubb2003 | dabvu2498 | Gallen5862 | LexRedsFan | Plus Plus | RedlegJake | redsfan1995 | The Operator | Tommyjohn25